Live Casino game 2.5 / 5 €.
My Stack 1740 €
MP1 Stack 4000 €

MP1 opens for 20 and the CO calls. I am BTN with As Ad and 3bet to 140. MP1 calls, CO folds.

Flop Jc 6c 3s
MP1 check, i check.

Turn 9c now on Board Jc 6c 3s 9c
MP1 bets 160, i call after 30 seconds

River Qs now Jc 6c 3s 9c Qs
MP1 bets 500 in a Pot of 627,5, Pot after Bet 1127,5
I fold after 3 Minutes of thinking.

Is this a correct fold or a big error? He is giving me a lil bit better than 2:1.
But i know him very well, we play together almost every day and we have a large history. He knows my errors better than i know anything of him. I am outclassed by far. He is second big winning player in the casino i play. He is very well ballanced and capable of bluffs in this spot easily.
I fold, because in more times than not, he has it in this spot. If i call, i am calling too much, i guess. It`s a tight spot i think.


What do you think? Poorly played by me ? Flop Check too weak ? Turn call questionable? River fold big error?

Close but I'd call. V's line is a bit inconsistent. The halfpot bet on turn doesn't suggest a strong hand requiring protection, like if he had 66 there I'd expect sizing to be a bit bigger. Yet now OTR he is claiming to have a strong hand. He could have QJ or the nut flush, they would be consistent with his turn and river betting, but there are a lot of busted draws he could have and he's probably good enough to make this bluff with a made hand. AA also has to be near the top of our range for this line. We could easily be as weak as TT, for example.

Why didn’t you bet flop?

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I checked the flop only against this particular player. He loves to play big pots against me, there he has the most edge, so i tried to keep it smaller. (no balls) I missed the bet to gain information, i`m aware and this goes against my 3 bet preflop, but it is wise to play it more cautious against him, especially when the pot gets bigger.
So i checked.
Usually when i 3 bet him, he folds. He knows i only 3 bet him with the top of my range. AQ, AK, QQ, KK, AA, sometimes JJ.
I know, that he knows, that i know....
I could do it more often against him with a lower range, but i wouldn`t dare.

When i call him, like i said, he usually has it in 8 out of 10 times. It is very difficult to beat him.
He would never bet without equity against me. When i caught him bluffing against me, it was always close and always tough for me to call or raise.

I thought about QJ, too. I gave him a flush, a set or two pair.
Sadly i don`t know what he had, he would tell me, if i ask. But i did not ask.
And i think it is not about his holdings here, but rather if it is right or wrong to play like this.

thx for your quick reply

Facing a checkraise would be unpleasant because all the sets are in his range and only JJ is in ours. It's never going to go x/c, x/c, x/c, show AA win, that just isn't going to happen. When you're this deep it's fine to put strong stuff in your check range sometimes, helps keep things balanced.

Well I don’t know your situation but maybe stakes are too high?

I know you regard him highly but you literally have the best hand in poker and a great flop to Cbet on. And are still scared to bet?

Ugh why are your 3 betting pre and checking flop? I’m prolly c betting my whole 3 betting range here. The flop check is soo bad. Bet flop please. This is a great barrel spot where we wanna build a pot. Jx isn’t calling 2 streets here?

I would not say scared. I think it is the better play against him. I built a substential br over the years. Sometimes we play 5 / 5 / 10 and i can play it sedated.

It is a lil bit of a blind play trying to put everything in just because you have the best hand in poker. The hand played out as expected. I knew he would bet on turn and even bigger on the river. The 9c was not my favourite card to come, but i have to call at last one time against one bet. I was thinking about folding on the turn, but that would be a lil bit too much i guess. But i did not like to pay people if they have it. So i folded.

Thx ChrisV, i thought similar.

As played you have to call river


You look like a player who whiffed his AKs.



You need to barrel hard here this is a great flop for us and it's heads up. You can't be scared of monsters under the bed. 60% pot on flop, 75-80% on turn, checking back river if checked. One pair hands are usually 2 street hands unless clean runouts.


Anyway if you're uncomfortable cbeting this flop in position with aces then you should never 3 bet 1 pair hands ever if you're deep because you can't handle it. Only threebet them when you're 100bb's or less.


I know players like you, you can play aces profitably without threebeting but if you drop pairs out of your 3! range when deep you still need to be 3! your nut hands like A10-AKs and a2-a5s and j10-kqs.

Flop check is fine sometimes. I don't mind it. The runout is particularly bad for you and I don't have strong feelings either way, as I think you're good about as often as the pot odds you're getting. I'd nit fold and not feel too exploited since this is such a poor runout for your line and hand.

If you want to keep playing against this guy, I think the meta-game gain from calling pushes us to do that - call.

If you lose, you lose, but he'll know you are willing to call him when he bets in situations that are sketchy / lots of potential bluffs in his range.

If you win, you send the same message, just a little stronger in that you made a correct (big) call with a one-pair hand.

Plus you are obviously under-rep'd in this spot. I don't love it, but I gotta call here.

If this guy really has your number such that you can't feel comfortable playing big pots, just smooth call preflop with AA and maybe trap him and/or play a smaller pot when it's him vs you...?

Not betting flop is a huge mistake. Especially w/o the Ac but even then, bet flop.

flop check is really bad imo and as played gotta snap it off. sure we don´t love it, but we can´t fold AA here given how underrepped we are and villain being capable of bluffing.

I think sizing pre is too big as well.

I bet the flop the majority of the time for sure, but to those who are betting flop, how are we responding to a c/r? Are we ever just calling it down for our entire stack? Or do we not worry much about it because it doesn't go down like that very often?

Pre is way too big.

Flop is a slam dunk cbet, i'm all for balancing check back ranges but this isn't the hand or board texture to be doing it on.

AP i call

Pre is not way too big.

very much this

No. Not this. If you are scared to play AA in position for a 3-bet than you are the definition of scared money. Just leave the table and play 1-2. Otherwise you are playing like a granny and won't make any $ in the long run.

gii or call down, depending on his sizing and if he´s got a r/f range. I´m not folding AA on that board with that stack depht.

i mean one of the reasons to check flop is to give our opponents some rope to blow us off the pot.

you got to call this given how under repped you are.