Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Flush draw with 2 over cards. Flush draw with 2 over cards.

08-24-2017 , 06:43 PM
Hello

I am an intermediate live cash game player, and I am winning through the years. I had recently been through a down swing, and there are couple of hands I would like someone to help me to analize it.

Hand 1.
Live $1-$1 game.

Hero straddled to $2. Hero look down As Js. Hero have a stack of $150.

3 weak passive players limped $2. SB folded, BB raised to $12. Hero called $12. 3 weak players called $12. Pot is $61.

Flop:
9s 5s 2d

BB bet $16
BB is a moderate tight players who like to make loose calls. BB normally have strong hands when go aggressive.

Here is what I thought. I feel BB have a strong hand pre-flop. But the post-flop bet feel like a probing bet. I put BB on hands like AK, AQ, or a medium pair. I feel BB will bet a lot bigger if he had TT+. The pot is already quite big and worth stealing. I also hope the 3 weak players would fold 9T type of hands

Hero raised to $46. 3 limpers folded, BB raised all in of $200.
I feel I have between 12-15 outs in this spot. It is a easy call given the pot odds.

Hero called all in of $150.
Turn:
10d
River:
10s

BB showed 5h5s and won with full house.

Did I play it wrongly? What could I have done differently?

Many thanks
Flush draw with 2 over cards. Quote
08-25-2017 , 05:01 AM
Why raise out the limpers? Why be afraid of 9T etc?

Seems like you get approx 2-1 on your money. As played, easy call.

Terrible flop bet from BB btw.
Flush draw with 2 over cards. Quote
08-25-2017 , 03:56 PM
I think you should raise the BBs open about 50% of the time and just flat the other 50% of the time. I think you played the hand fine. I'm never folding here when BB 4bets allin because I think he can also have overpairs here.

Our AJ has 25% equity against a set
Our AJ has 36% equity against Aces
Our AJ has 46% equity against Kings or Queens

Based on math, we need 33% equity to call the all in. If V ever makes this play with a flush draw, Tens, or hand like A9, this is definitely a call.
That said, I don't think calling can ever be bad. This is a high variance spot so don't get upset when we lose occasionally.

Also, BB should have definitely bet more on the flop, atleast $25.
Flush draw with 2 over cards. Quote
08-25-2017 , 04:46 PM
With three players behind you I probably just call the $16 on the flop. It's a ridiculously small bet and does lean his range away from overpairs. Did you notice how often he raised preflop in general, and had he ever done it from the blinds? With 3 limpers his $12 pre is rarely going to fold people out, at least from my experience, so looks more like a pot-builder raise pre but again would need to know more about villain's history.

Anyway back to the flop... So yeah the bet is so small it could practically be a check, but with the nut flush draw and passive players behind you, you definitely want them coming along for the ride if they have worse draws, top pair, etc. You should be more likely to semi-bluff with non-nut draws since they are harder to get value from. It would also be useful to know how big stacks are for the other limpers.

If you do raise the flop trying to take it down right away, $46 is too small since that would have been a reasonable flop bet without the $16 bet. Think about the pot odds you are giving BB: the pot is $123 now with $30 to call, so even after pulling rake he is getting almost 4:1 to call. He's not folding much in that spot except maybe a pocket pair under 99 (non-set obv).

If you raise to $60-65 you're giving BB more like 3:1 and at least giving him more of a decision with medium hands.

As played if you had $150 to start the hand then it's like 2.8:1 to call the all in with 9 to 15 outs as long as you're not up against a set so definitely calling the shove.
Flush draw with 2 over cards. Quote

      
m