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Are flush-completing overcards good or bad to barrel? Are flush-completing overcards good or bad to barrel?

06-26-2014 , 03:59 PM
For example, you cbet a 952ss flop and gets checked to you in a HU pot on a Qs turn. Is this a good or bad barrel card?
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06-26-2014 , 04:15 PM
This is far too vague and it really depends. You have not given Herod cards, stack depth, player tendencies or any other useful info. Barrelling scare cards works great vs ABC players that have fold buttons but it is never as simple as you are describing.
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06-26-2014 , 04:32 PM
generally if you are heads up, flushes will only be a small part of their range. So yes it will still be a good card to barrel. Overcards are the best cards to barrel (better than flush completing cards)

Of course this is very general and each situation is different.
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06-26-2014 , 06:16 PM
The answer if you are looking for a general guideline on when to bluff when an overcard flush card come on the turn, don't ever do it. You'll lose your shirt as people will call you down with all kinds of hands. Against certain villains that can lay down TP while you have a great image of hitting every draw, then consider it HU.
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06-26-2014 , 09:44 PM
It really depends on many other things, most most most importantly, ur villain, does he fold easy ? Does he flat turn a lot but folds to river bets? Is he a station? Etc....
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06-26-2014 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yash81
What is with all these vague questions? However I do have the answer, to be honest and will give it only if you can answer my question:
You walk into a bar and its Friday night and it's packed. You see a girl at the bar, what do you do?
Disregard her and continue to acquire aesthetics.
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06-26-2014 , 09:54 PM
U know, lol I just didn't wanna turn the thread into something else, regardless lol
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06-27-2014 , 02:17 AM
good to barrel especially if u got one of the suit, for potential value or sdv on 4flush riv
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06-27-2014 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
The answer if you are looking for a general guideline on when to bluff when an overcard flush card come on the turn, don't ever do it. You'll lose your shirt as people will call you down with all kinds of hands. Against certain villains that can lay down TP while you have a great image of hitting every draw, then consider it HU.
Had a hilarious hand happen to me the other day.

I'm in the SB with A3, 5-way limpfest pot. 2/5nl, eff stacks $500

Flop($25) T 4 8
I chk, ABC fish bets $20, LP calls, I call, everyone else folds

Turn(85) 2
I chk, ABC bets $70, LP tank calls, I call

River(295) 7
I bet $150, ABC player slams his fist on the table and says, "effing club, you are so lucky, stupid club, or you might have gotten the straight with J9..." and after going on and on for a minute about how many hands I hit that beat him, he then calls. LP tank calls.

I show the nuts, ABC proudly proclaims that he knew I had the flush and he shows AT and LP shows KT

He then went on for the next ten minutes to whine about how lucky I got and I kept thinking, "Yeah, lucky you are so bad..."

There are some players who we can rep and bluff off of hands, but there are a lot who just can't bring themselves to ever fold when they have a good hand.

Players we want to target for decent bluffs are players who make dramatic big laydowns so the table can see how good they are. These players will also like to announce their poker philosophies and broadcasts their thoughts. You will often hear them say things like, "I Know you got nothing, I know I got you beat, but I'm going to wait for a better spot..." Or they will say things like, "AK isn't a real hand... how could you raise with that..." and other weak tight fishy stuff. So yeah, against this breed of poker player, we can target them and bluff.

Otherwise, be careful because majority of our villains at LLSNL couldn't fold a made hand to save their lives...
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06-27-2014 , 10:33 AM
nh Harris lol

too many people let their ego's get in the way of how they should play their hand. They don't want to get pushed around by someone who might be bluffing about 10% of the time, so they call.
He would rather lose 90% of the time fair and square then to lose to that bluff 10% of the time by folding the winning hand. Even though they know they're beat they still call.

I have learned that a lot of my profits, although this might sound awkward, come from my folds.
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