Alright so this hand happened fairly early on in a session of 1/3. The game was playing pretty wild with alot of calling stations and fish at the table.

V1 is a competant thinking player who ive played a bit with in the past. Id label him a TAG.

V2: No info. seems like a typical weekend fish.

v3: played with him for 12 hours the day before and he is an absolute WHALE! calls with any 2 pre flop and isnt afraid to bluff. (took 1200$ from him the day before)

OTTH: UTG opens to 12, V2 calls, V3 calls, and hero looks down at KcQs on the button. Dont really want to flat and go 4,5,or 6 ways to a flop so I put in the 3b to 70$. (started with 400 and all villians cover besides V2).

ALL 3 PLAYERS CALL!

Flop comes 9 10 Jcc and it checks around to us...

My question now is should we bet or check and hope someone catches something on the turn...

If you dont bet this, quit poker and start playing Parcheesi.

$140. Shove non-club turns.

You should not have any hands in your continuing range that you do not lead. If you had AA, KK, QQ, or JJ would you be checking? This board smashes a three bet calling range, I'd bet $90-$100 and watch the fireworks.

One of my rules of poker: Never slowplay any hand worse than a nut flush. And even a nut flush should rarely be slowplayed.

Yes?

If the players are whaley as you say, just shove this flop. The pot is $280 minus rake and you have $330 behind. They will think you have AA and call with any 2-pair and any draw. One of them may convince themselves you have AK and call with one pair.

Oh didn't realise we were so shallow. Would shove AA then.

No dont ever check, checking is nutworst.

Pre is a fold. A TAG is opening UTG and you want to pile in money with K high double suited? Interesting.

Otf bet $150 shove all turns

Bet between 3/4 and all in. Pot is large, you are committed. I don't like the 3bet either, if an UTG tag raises I don't always call with KQo. Depends on potodds but KQo is behind a TAG UTG raising range.

Flop the nuts multi way wut do? Is this for real?

If you want actual good advice on what you've done in this hand, it should be to not 3 bet this hand. If it's suited I don't mind it at all, but offsuit KQ is not gonna play well postflop, and yes the extra few % suitedness adds in terms of raw equity is a big deal.

Wish i had these problems.

I agree also suited KQs at least has more playability if called

there is a time to slow play, and this is not one of those times

they're not gonna give u credit for the nuts, you could be c-betting with so many hands here

+1

$140-$150 OTF. Check would be brutal.

Yup checking is terrible. I think the choice is bet or shove. I probably lean slightly more to shove given we only have barely a post size bet left.

Bet $140. Checking is terrible, the amount of cards that could come OTT and slow down the action is too high.

Shove the flop. Can get called with much worse and you have amazing equity against all of it. I'd be astonished if at least one person didn't call you.

Also dislike the 3! pre.

I think I would just fold preflop, especially against an EP raise from a TAG (who is obviously never opening light at this fish/whale infested table).

As played, I would jam the flop. It's just for a little over a PSB, this board could have easily smoked multiple people, it's very drawy, and no one folds a draw on the flop.

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All these sizes are way too big and awkward for our stack and pot and what turn would be. I like 80-100 or shove

This would be a terrible check. I'm sorry if you made it OP, but really, checking this is FPS to the highest degree.

Like this is way different than 3 betting and having it come A66r or something. You check there not to be "tricky", but because mathematically speaking, it's so hard for anyone to have a piece when you have AA that you need to hope someone turns a pair and calls once, or something.

This board is so dynamic, though. So not only can a ton of hands in terrible shape give you action, but a ton of turn cards drastically change the board. Anything above a 6 or a club changes action regions a ton.

What are stacks? If I have anything close to around 1 PSB or less, I'm just ramming it in now. Two pair / Qx / cc will all just gamble with you.

I would bet around %35-%40 pot. I would do this with my entire range because it keeps my bluffs cheap with AK.

OTT I would bet 1/2 pot unless an all in is not much more

This. With the K, I'd shove all turns.

Never check. Too many cards that could make you lose the pot or kill your action. You have 3 opponents, who could easily have a set or 2 pair, or a flush draw on this board. I would just shove here. It will look like you have AA or QQ and you will likely get a caller. It's not much more than a pot sized bet. You really want the flush draw or a set to pay full freight to draw against your nut straight.

This is pretty bad here. I think if it checks to us here OTB, its an easy check vs 3+ players with lots of hands we would squeeze with here [AA/KK/AK/AQ]. And if we have the with our overpair, I think its even more of a check b/c getting raised means V is more likely to have 2p/sets then semi-bluffing.

AP, SPR is less than 2, so its fine to pot/overbet here b/c none of these guys are EVER FOLDING nfd, pairs+draws, etc. Hello variance!