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Originally Posted by CamNewton3
I'm not too worried about V1 who could be tilted and have a hand as bad as a gutshot or a weak top pair. V2 could have a set, a better FD, straight draw, all three of which he might have already raised the 15$ with or could have TPTK, 99, TT, or even some weird 2 pairs.
V1 is all-in and you definitely have to improve to win (we have the nut low). It's possible that your pair outs are live, which is really the only argument for shoving in order to get V2 to fold.
Scenario 1: V2 has a hand like A8/99. If you get V2 to fold, this could open up your 4-6 pair outs. If you just call, is it possible you make more money upon hitting the straight (3-4 outs)?
Scenario 2: V2 has a higher FD. I doubt we get a fold since villain would have better than 2:1 against a shove.
Scenario 3: V2 has a monster (88,33,22). Fairly unlikely given action, but you're not in terrible shape with the overlay from V1.
Just seems rather pointless to shove on the flop, due to the pot being protected by V1 and V2 not seeming to care about the strength shown this far and potential for you to reopen the betting.