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Flopped set, turned boat, turn hand into river bluff? Flopped set, turned boat, turn hand into river bluff?

09-03-2017 , 03:43 AM
$1/3 game is playing very loose passive. Limps will make it around, if it get's raised it will be to $8, max $12. Odd game in that respect. Raises will get called and played passive again.

Hero is on $380, gets 33 UTG, limps. BB is super sticky calling station w/ ~$700 (sat down with it and dealer didn't notice?). I'm set mining and trying to have BB get any part of it to get paid.

2 MP callers, both blinds call.

Flop $13
Jd6h3c

SB, BB check, H checks (some FPS here but I'm in a great spot, I expect on of the MP callers to stab $10 at it, BB will definitely call, I'll raise to $50, MP will fold, BB is a lock call and I'm set up for 2 more streets of value, probably $80ish on turn and $125 on river. May not be a great plan, but it's my plan)
Unfortunately both MP's check behind. Not a big problem, I'll take over from here.

Turn $13
Jc

SB, BB check, H leads for $10, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, both blinds fold (that isn't what I was planning...)

River $32
Jh

$%*( - that's not a good river for H. Does H check to MP or turn his hand into a bluff? MP1 is a very nondescript player. Sitting on ~$250 or so. Hasn't been in many hands, doesn't seem particularly tricky or terribly bad, just average.

I don't think this is a WAWB situation because he could have a 6 or all kinds of small pairs, could think a big A is good, and of course could have quads.

Obviously not a large pot but somehow I was rattled by the running J's I couldn't figure out what to do here. H bet's or check?
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09-03-2017 , 05:14 AM
Nope
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09-03-2017 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Nope
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09-03-2017 , 05:30 AM
I answered your question. Trying to rep quads to get someone to fold a boat at low stakes - a bit silly. No one folds boats
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09-03-2017 , 05:35 AM
If anything, bluff-catching is a much better option than trying to bluff someone off a FH. Also, 6x bets flop at a decent frequency, and 77-1010 are probably raising pre. So yeah I dont really mind a x/c here, esp since u dont have a club
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09-03-2017 , 06:11 AM
Just try to check it down. You are probably losing now but bluffing is pretty hopeless. Nobody is folding a better boat. Might call a small river bet depending on villain.

Also bet flop.

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09-03-2017 , 07:45 AM
Unless you have a really good reason to bluff, don't. You don't have one here. You have showdown value. Get there as cheaply as possible.
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09-03-2017 , 08:01 AM
Your flop check makes me sad. Lead for $15. You shouldn't rely on other people to bet for you in limped pots since no one has the intiative. Why do you expect one of the other callers to take a stab? There's not a lot of money in the middle to bluff at.

Check/evaluate river. Trying to bluff people off of a full house is a mistake. Even if someone was willing to fold a FH, they're probably not doing so to one bet in a small pot.
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09-03-2017 , 10:24 AM
So I reopened a leak from days passed and bet smallish on river trying to rep a milk bet with a huge expecting someone who isn't pay much attention to make an astute play. I played it like an ass-clown. I lose to 6-4 off-suit.
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09-03-2017 , 03:05 PM
Small bets will get called more often, not less, even by someone "paying attention." Especially here a small bet will fold out missed draws and get called by 6x. I doubt even 55/44 fold.

You have the best hand often enough with all the missed draws to try to get to showdown here.
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09-03-2017 , 03:17 PM
bet flop ffs. not sure why you want to bluff river for such a tiny pot.
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