$1/3, Tuesday afternoon game. Mostly older regs, I know 7 of the other 9 players. 1 nit, 4 ABCish players and 2 loose passive players. Don't know the other 2.

V in this hand is a 30's white guy sitting on ~$750. The other players know him but I don't. Broadly stereo typing I would assume he's break-even or better but not a crusher. Not going apply too much pressure but not a donkey. Really just guessing, I've been at the table for 3 hands.

H $300, 41yo white guy. Table views me a loose passive / loose aggressive with one of the guys thinking I'm a solid TAG. I'll play any or all of those styles depending on table dynamic. This is my 3rd hand.

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1 limper in EP, H get 4d4c in LP & limps for $3 as I assume the table will let me do so. V makes it $8 from the BTN, declares it a 'juicer', SB & BB folds, EP calls, Hero calls. I believe he has a mediocre pair, small suited connector or a small suited A. How do you all range a BTN raise to $8 after 2 limpers?

Flop ($24)
2d4s5s

This flop smashes both H's hand and V's range. EP checks, H leads out for $17, V raises it to $40, EP folds. Hero? What is plan for rest of hand?

Raise pre ESP in late position, as played limp reraise his lol $8 preflop, nobody does that or says what he does with a big hand, make it 35 and take it down. As played, make it 100. Flop hardly smashed V range but with flushdraw and several straight draws it's time to build this pot now and get it in on most turns

Even if you pin his range at pocket pairs preflop there are more ways he can have 22 and 33 then 55. Add in some straight draws and flush draws and you are in good shape but need to charge him to draw.

If you think he can be over playing a higher pair then flatting is tempting but your OOP. You need to be confident he will bet the turn before flatting is good and you can't be sure of that yet. Go ahead and reraise to $100 and get it in if he shoves. It's a cooler if it's set over set.

I would just call here to keep his range wide, as a re-raise would fold out his bluffs and most semi-bluffs. If you are behind (Eg A3), you still have equity. If he fires turn on a brick, I call. A big river bet I am snap folding.

**Also think your donk bet signals to him you caught a draw or pair, and he has an overpair. Keep that line and hope turn bricks so he fires again

Your SNAP folding a set if two bricks come out? Seems mubsy

I like the way you've played it so far. I like the lead a lot.

As played I think I like raising. There's enough hands that will continue vs you that you're ahead of and a few that will continue that you're absolutely crushing. Also it's a flop where v can give you credit for some type of draw/combodraw and maybe go crazy with a 66-99, 53s type hand (discounting TT-AA heavily due to the small raise pre).

Sometimes you just gotta get it in there with middle set!

H raises to $100. V thinks for a ~15 seconds and calls the $100.

Turn ($223) Kh

H has $188 behind. H?

Umm, shove.

Haha turn shouldn't be a question as played! Peanut butter and jam it in there and suck out vs A3ss

What? You’re snap folding a set on a brick river? Not sure if serious.

Seems kind of ambitious OOP, no? What are you repping by l/rr-ing OOP in LP?

Looks like he’s going to call us pre a lot.

Doug Polk says - you should lead out into the PFR, exactly never.

I snappily shoved, V called without much trouble. V had 22 and got coolered set over set. I did feel good that I got max value against his range before an A, 3, 6 or spade killed any potential action. River was a brick so maybe it didn't matter. Was glad I didn't FPS it. Had a very solid session after this where I took similar lines without it and had success.

Curious to know what these similar lines “without it” were?

Just firm pressure lines using stack and image to control table. Had AsKd, raised pre. Flop Jh10c4h, turn 7h, river 2h, led all 3 streets, got river fold. 3b pre w/ A3dd, flop 8c7s3h, reraised on flop for win. Nothing fantastic but managed to drive V's out when I was light and get calls when I hit. Sun-running doesn't hurt either. Won 3 BI's in 2.5 hrs and walked.

I would shove turn but I would just call the reraise flop, there's plenty of chance to get it all in...which you did i see.

Can you explain your thought process behind triple barreling this texture without any sort of blockers?

Also, would you bet river in the same hand if the 2 was not a heart? Why/why not?

Cmon. Check flop. You are sandwiched here. It's a great spot to c/r if BTN bets and EP calls.

We rep nothing but at 1/2 I doubt half the player pool can range us at all correctly and just view it as "is my hand worth $35" and generally people raising to 8 don't want to see it get 4x'd. It's undoubtedly exploitable to do this at 2/5 or even competent 1/2 players , but the general trend at 1/2 is 3b are typically QQ+\AK and the calling range isn't that far off from that range for most players

Don’t donk here. Cmon now.

Leading is pretty bad in this spot. Let btn cbet his air and its a great flop for the ep limp caller. He might even get out of line knowing this flop smashes his range more then btns or he might just call light. I see absolutely no reason to donk

that sounds spewtastic

why walk after 2.5 hours if you´re on a heater?

What do we think of the limper? If he's a fish, I'm fine with the overlimp attempting to get into a hand with him.

Facing the juicer raise things aren't so simple. Again, if the limp/caller is a total fish, then I'm fine with it. But if he's not, and we just faced a juicer raise from a speculative hand by an opponent who is somewhat solid, how are we going to fare against him if he decides he also wants to get in his stack postflop when we flop our small set? My guess is that we'll almost always lose. Course, there will be times when we'll be able to take down the pot UI. But overall, it's a dicey situation against competent opponents especially OOP.

As for the $8 raise on the Button, yeah, hard to make heads or tails of it. The deeper stacks are, the more chances this could actually be a monster (especially if he is this deep with the limper).

I would probably also donk the flop.

Did he really just juice very meh 22? I dunno, maybe? Otherwise, I'm probably throwing up in my mouth a little against a non-******ed opponent (i.e. go back to my preflop reasoning). I probably go into calldown mode, possibly donk/folding the river.

ETA: Reading results things obviously turned out great, and admittedly there was one hand that we were solidly ahead of. But my takeaway (and OP can correct me if he thinks I'm wrong) is that my guess is that $300 stacks go in hardly ever and when they do it is often cooler over cooler against semi-competent opponets. Now ask yourself how often a set of 4s is going to be on the good end of the cooler.

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Take everything said here and do the opposite. If anyone thinks donking flop was good then you arent any good. Its not even a spot where Id say lead 20% of the time. Its as clear of a check raise as u can get.

Donking is fine. We're mostly looking to get action from the EP limper and build a pot against him. Having the juicer check behind would be a disaster in a spot where the EP limper is willing to build a pot.

ETA: I mean checking is fine too if we think the juicer is willing to cbet a lot; I just think that fails so often in obvious juicer spots.

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