Villain: mid 20's. very tight. only there to nut-pedal it seems. totally disinterested when not involved (which is most of the time). never seen him raise before. does crosswords when not involved.
about 250 deep effectively to start
Preflop: Hero UTG makes it $10 with AcKc, Villain UTG+1 3bets to $30, folds around to Hero who calls. to be honest, im not even sure this is a good call. im not sure how tight his range is, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was as tight as KK+. what do you think?
Flop: 7c 4c 2c. flop the nuts. $60 in pot. $220 in stacks. how to play to get the most money from villain's range? lead out? c/r? c/c? i opted to check and villain quickly counted out $55 and bet it. so, now there's $115 in the pot and he has $165 behind. raise now? wait for turn?
i think he's nearly drawing dead, but im wondering how he would most likely feel good about getting the money in with KK (maybe a club) or red AA? if he'd think the flop was his best bet?
He can't have KK with Kc, since you have it in your hand silly goose.
I think this is a pretty clear all-in situation. His range, considering how tight you described him, is probably QQ+, AK. I think the best way to get value from this range is to jam. You obviously aren't getting any more value from AK in this hand (since he's either folding to a raise, or shutting down on turn after a call), so you just have to target the QQ+ portion of his range. If you flat, there are many cards that kill your action on the turn (any club unless he happens to hold QcQx, but even then he probably wouldn't feel comfortable getting stacks in with Qc). In order to get values from his big pairs, you should jam. He might put you on a pair+fd or just a naked A high f/d. Regardless, I doubt he folds AA or KK on this board so you will get good value from a shove.
He can't have KK with Kc, since you have it in your hand silly goose.
I think this is a pretty clear all-in situation. His range, considering how tight you described him, is probably QQ+, AK. I think the best way to get value from this range is to jam. You obviously aren't getting any more value from AK in this hand, so you just have to target the QQ+ portion of his range. If you flat, there are many cards that kill your action on the turn (any club unless he happens to hold QcQx, but even then he probably wouldn't feel comfortable getting stacks in with Qc). In order to get values from his big pairs, you should jam. He might put you on a pair+fd or just a naked A high f/d. Regardless, I doubt he folds AA or KK on this board so you will get good value from a shove.
haha.. right. can't have Kc. i decided to make a committing raise on the flop b/c i didn't want to chance another club hitting to kill my action. i made it $155 over his $55.
Well they just don't fold big pairs on the flop here very often and a c/r might get a fold from JJ/QQ especially without a club. Leading forces V to make a stack decision on the flop unless he just flats and folds on club turns. Both plays are fine but I like leading. I probably would have 4b pre but calling is ok too getting a good price with 125bb stacks. Being OOP sucks but AKs is pretty much AA in my book.
I would fold preflop if nobody else was in hand. If he is a rock nut peddler his EP range is probably something like AK/QQ+ and even if it is a bit wider then that it is hard for you to make money OOP. Better to just not give him action.
Against a lot of villains like this, leading flop gets the best value from AA/KK that will think your testing the water or have a club draw. As played, do you have any idea how he reacts to raises? Depending on the player, I would either call here and let him bet any non-club turn or just shove right now. If he will bet any non-club turn then calling and check/raising turn is probably best. If he doesn't like folding his big pairs, then come over the top now and represent a big flush draw. If he doesn't have a pair you probably don't get any more money either way unless he has AK and hits the turn.
Well they just don't fold big pairs on the flop here very often and a c/r might get a fold from JJ/QQ especially without a club. Leading forces V to make a stack decision on the flop unless he just flats and folds on club turns. Both plays are fine but I like leading.
i like the thought process here. nice stuff.
i c/r his 55 to 155 and he tank folded. didn't show, but said, "i folded a really big hand there. i had aces but no club"
I would rather flat the flop and lead all turn cards. (And pray it's not a club.)
Doubt we need to be worried about balance here with someone we will likely never see again. So, lead the turn for $80 and ship the river. He can never fold an OP with that line getting like 7:1 on the river.
I agree with leading. Donk bets often seem weak and they can really tilt people. With these stacks we can just bet/bet/shove. He might also make a raise with his overpair and make it easy for us. C/r definitely gets folds sometimes.
I agree with leading. Donk bets often seem weak and they can really tilt people. With these stacks we can just bet/bet/shove. He might also make a raise with his overpair and make it easy for us. C/r definitely gets folds sometimes.
this but im tempted to peel a flop
he easily can have JJ QQ
peel a flop
also lead 40% pot to induce raise or get a call
hopefully he does have QQ or JJ with a club and will stay interested in the hand
