2/5 NL. I've been slowly chipping up the whole evening. Not having to showdown hardly any hands. Up about $400 after 5 hours. Villain is an unknown guy in his late 20's or early 30's. He's been at the table for 4 hours. The only hand I can recall him raising preflop, he shows Aces after everyone folds to his flop bet.

The table has been pretty passive. Hardly any 3 betting preflop. I've been opening and raising a lot with hands I normally wouldn't.

I'm in EP with around $1200. Villain has $685 and is in BB.

I open to $15 with K 10 and get called by two later positions and the BB.

Pot $60

Flop comes 9-7-6

Villain leads out $20. I make it $60. Other two fold. Villain reraises to $145.
I call.

Pot $350

Turn K and villain bet $125. I decide to call and evaluate on river.

Pot $600

River 3 and he shoves for $400. Thoughts?

Nsh whine Villian obv showed nutflush since u depict a nit but u obv cant fold. He should have enough topset/midset QJdd for your call to easily be netting you a win.

If you raise flop, raise bigger. He isn't leading a hand that will fold to $80 but call $60.

Then get it in sooner rather than later. Just 4bet flop. If not, jam turn. He's not Nutflush/AdX polarized, he has sets, straights, worse flushes, plenty, and waiting for the river is bad.

Lol at "call and evaluate river". That is something you do when your not sure your hand is best, and it's possible to still get away from it.

It's not something you do when you have the 2nd nut flush 130 BB deep.

Only two hands that beat you since board didn't pair. I don't see villain having 8d10d for the straight flush. That leaves Adxd. He might have it. Unless I'd have a solid read on villain is call everytime here.

I'd 4bet flop and get it in there.

Huh? We have the T. Only straight flush combo is 5 8.

This is a cartwheel call.

snapping

I love his sizing on every street with the nut flush.

Snap call? Getting coolered sucks.

Does anyone think that there's greater than 1% chance that the Villain is value-betting the turn with a hand worse than ours? If so, what in the world would that hand be?

He's not even calling pre-flop with something like QdJd.

If you have a weak second-best hand you're free to fold. If you have a strong second-best hand you must call.

srsly? where do you get those infos from...

If villain is calling a raise with Axs pre he's calling a raise with QJs. We don't have any info about how loose he is (though we should after playing 4 hrs with him). We should certainly expect an unknown 2/5 player to call most of the time from the BB w QJs after a 3x raise and 2 callers, and we shouldn't be surprised to see him call smaller SCs (although there aren't too many combos of those on this board).

Here's the communication that took place in this hand. Villain says: I hit that flop and I want to build a pot.

We responded great and raised. Then Villain said: I want to play for stacks.

According to people posting here: p.s. I have a weak hand was part of that message.

Seriously folks?

When we raised the flop we told him that his sets and low flushes were no good.

And when we responded to us by 3-betting the flop his message to us wasn't that our hand was good.

A question: What more could the Villain possibly do to convince you that he had the nuts?

On the turn we have a bluff-catcher for someone who is never bluffing.

It is a very good second best hand and looks very pretty.

Tight people don't call raises with QJs. Even if they did there's one combo we're ahead of.

This is an extremely easy fold to make and if we're going to be opening Kx suited it's once that we should be prepared to make.

When the Villain 3-bets the flop do you think there's any information in that bet? Is he communicating anything about his hand strength to you? Is it to early to narrow his hand range at all??

even old man coffee is calling with suited connectors in the BB getting 5 to 1.

I'd understand finding a fold if he was a regular you have spent a lot of time playing against, and you had these stack sizes in a $1/2 game

You will fold and be wrong more than the opposite, imagine all the times this guy flopped a straight or set and panics on this flop and tries to "protect his hand" from the draws

In 2/5 you don't think the villain will call for $10 more with QJdd? or even 45dd? Would you?

Sure, he likes his hand. We need more info to know what that means, though. What do we know about villain? He's passive preflop, but we have no info about his postflop tendencies.

You seem pretty dead-set on insisting that our villain won't call pre w QJs (which I think almost everyone is going to disagree with you on) and that our villain is only ever getting in stacks with the nuts (which is a more reasonable argument, though another I think most will disagree with), so agree to disagree.

I'd probably call this in game. Most Vs at these levels don't understand value betting and probably would not 3bet a flopped made nut flush. And I would never never never expect to see a flopped straight flush take this betting line

Let's not forget in all this that our own image is not super tight. H has been raising a lot, so his range is pretty wide, easily could flop 2P+ on that board

I'd expect to see more flopped straights and sets that we're trying to push an A off a FD. I'd also expect to see random hands that have the A in it, like AJx

I folded. The 3 bet on the flop by the villain is something I can’t recall seeing by a decent player in this spot without the nuts.

Then why did you call the re-raise OTF? Just fold at that point since your only out is the 8.

Serious MUBS. Come on man, you can’t fold this hand. I would shove the turn or even flop if I thought I could get a call based on my image or the player.

You say the flop 3-bet is always the nuts. Are you people really always flatting a $40 flop raise at 2/5 with top set on this flop against high VPiP players??? You must play in some pretty nifty games.

Also, please consider that 5 of 13 combos of Ax of diamonds are blocked. Additionally, how often do you lead out the nuts on the flop against preflop raiser? Hopefully not often and neither are most other people.

Also, if your image is loose, in addition to sets, why can’t he make this play with AT-A8 with Ad, JQdd, QQ with Qd or less often even AA with Ad?

Realistically, you can only fold here if you have a stone cold read on V because you're losing soooooo much value when he's donkey shoving with worse hands, which there are many. You label him as an unknown guy and have been playing with him for 4 hours. It's extremely unlikely you have the read you need to fold.