I witnessed an interesting hand tonight in the $1/$3 blind NLHE game at the Bike tonight. The game has an $80 to $120 buy in structure.

I am UTG with Ac 6d and muck. The player to my left raises to $6 and everyone but the small blind proceeds to call.

Pot $43
Flop: Qs 2s 3s

Everyone checks to the button who bets $15 (Has about $50 left behind).
BB- Raises to $50 (About $150 left behind).
Everyone folds to the lady in MP. She asks how much the bet is, shrugs, then announces she is all in while shoving her two racks in the pot. The bet is $165.
The player to her left folds and the button immediately shoves his remaining $50 in the pot.
The pot is now $323.
The BB now asks for time and starts talking to himself. He looks at his cards and I can see he has Ks 7s for a flopped flush.

The pot is $323 and it will cost him another $115 to call. What would you do in his shoes??

Notes on the players in the hand:
I have played with the lady 2 times before. From what I saw she played pretty ABC poker and never did anything crazy. The button is a new face at the casino and has only played 2 hands. He’s an older Middle Eastern man with 2 pilots behind him. The BB is a prop. He plays a pretty tight and aggressive no limit game usually.

um, I insta-insta-call.

Pretty easy call with pot odds,opponents can have worse flushes plus sets and weird pair plus draws,it would take action from a known übernit to get me to fold.

[ ] interesting hand

The max BI is 40bbs? *pukes*

The juicer preflop raise in a 40bb game is hilariously bad.

I think this is a snap call for the BB given these stack sizes. The Button is short and could have anything, including the A high flush draw. The lady is obviously never bluffing, but she can still easily be doing this with lots of hands we beat (the nuts, worse flushes and sets are pretty much her range, and once and a blue moon getting jiggy with the A high flush draw herself).

Gnothingtoseehere,imoG

The lady could show me an ace high flush and I'm still throwing the 115$ in

LOL at people who troll the low stakes forum. Sorry for not being a sick baller like you.

So far this thread has gotten 5 out of 5 "insta-call" responses; not sure many people are going to disagree.

GsickballerG

That's great. I just asked a question. He doesn't have to be a jerkoff. If he doesn't think my question is interesting enough, he can move on. Doesn't have to talk down to me.

I didn't think it was wrong to want to hear different reasons as to why it would be an easy call.

Well, I don't want to speak for him, but I don't think he's exactly talking down. I think he (and everyone else so far) is saying BB just has to stack off here.

If stacks were a lot bigger, then it becomes a lot more interesting.

There's no doubt that she shows up with the nuts here some of the time. She checks the flop cuz that's what bad players do when the flop the nuts in a multiway pot; but with the nuts she might just flat the raise a decent amount of the time not to blow anyone out of the pot, or she might just shove for fear of a set sucking out on her. A smaller flush might lead out here for fear of the 4-to-a-flush coming in, so that somewhat lessons the chances of a smaller flush. A set could easily just check this scary flop and see what happens, but then after all the action decide, wtf, I have a set, lets just get it in with these stacks and hope I'm good or suckout if I'm not.

GimoG

Thank you for your replies so far. I appreciate you taking the time to break down the hand and write a response. I have read some of your other posts and I like what I have read so far.

If the stacks were bigger, what would you do here? Say BB is $400 effective, the lady has $350 and the button has $175.

easy call. i'd need to be 300bb+ effective before this becomes a tough decision.

she is going to show up with AsX, a set, smaller made flushes, or the random spaz here so much more often than the nuts.

in nlhe, you kind of think about flush over flush (3 of a suit on board) the same way you think about flopped set over set. its so unlikely that you don't even really worry about it until you are getting pretty deep. if you get coolered, you get coolered but you will be way a head a lot of the time.

welcome to 2+2

Since the stack-to-pot ratio is so low, there simply aren't that many reasons to discuss (hence the snark in the thread).

He's flopped the second nut in a limped pot, and he's getting 3-to-1 on an all-in call. That's always a stack-off, since villains can easily have the nfd, sets, and smaller flushes.

If stacks were $1,000 each (and the pot was the same size) then it would be a complicated question and would elicit debate.

we still get it in. honestly, we have to be like $900 deep before this is much of a question. with 60bb behind this is a snap call.

Ok. Then we have 1000 in front of us and she has 1200. Button has 800. What do you do now?

Ok. Let's make this a complicated question then. We have 1000, lady has 1200, button has 800. Now what do we do? Interested to hear your opinion

I'm not exactly sure where this starts becoming complicated, but it starts getting there way before being 300bb / $900 deep in a limped pot, imo.

Gmaybeevenaround100bbsthisstartsgettingtrickyG

It's just a super standard spot is all. You have the second nuts and are getting close to 3:1 on your money.

Well the woman obviously has a flush. Folding at this stack size would be ridiculous. I wouldn't go broke in a limped pot for 300bb without the nuts though.

300bb might be a little high, but 200bb for sure. i think we lose a lot of value folding the 2nd nuts to people like this villain. i need a read on someone or villain has to be OMC or mega nit to make that fold. i know you've played a ton of live poker and so have i and i can't count the number of times people just go nuts with weak hands and draws that you would not expect or wouldn't dream of doing if you were in their shoes.

Once we're that deep, it's going to depend on us having a solid read on both villains. What range do we think they'd make this move with? How did they get their huge stacks, how had we been planning to exploit them, what do they think/do they think at all about what we have here?

Around 250 bbs I think this becomes a complicated question. But answering it will rely on factors that occur outside of the hand.

i probably begrudgingly fold and then rack up and go home when i get shown a smaller flush vs a set.