1/3 Uncapped. No Rake. (Time Charge +BBJ)

Hero $450 (BTN)- Teenager who plays and studies in most of his free time. Aspiring pro, respected by regs. Usually doesn't have large skill advantage on table due to lack of experience, etc. but this table was relatively soft. Mostly OMCs and recs.

Main Villain Covers (UTG)- LAG. Not a maniac and not a fish but clearly a rec player playing too many pots. He overvalues hands and lacks positional awareness. I've played with him before and seen him do some crazy stuff when drunk.

4 limps to me. I overlimp with Js2s. I'm aware of the RIO of this hand but felt as if the return outweighed the risk at this table and stack depth in position. I can get away from a weak two pair or trips. Should I be folding? SB calls. BB checks his option.

Flop ($20) Qs5s3s Favorable Flop. Checks to me. I bet $10. UTG raises to $40. He'd do this with any two-pair+, given this action. I make it $100. He quickly and confidently says he's all in.

I doubt he's ever bluffing. But I am beating lots of hands that may play this way like 55s, 33s, two-pair, weaker flushes, combo draws, pair + flush draws etc. In other words, there's a lot of value combos that I beat. Thoughts?

Only 2 flushes beat you in a limped pot where he might have any semi connected spades, or a set and you say he overvalues his hands so he's clearly shipping any flush and any set here.

This is why limping trashy hands like this is generally a bad idea. You hit a nearly perfect flop and you might be drawing dead on it. If you’re going to play this hand I would be abusing your positional advantage and going after the dead money pre by raising to $25-30, but this is a dangerous game to start playing too often if you’re inexperienced.

AP, you get it in here and hope you’re not dominated first, then hope that your hand holds if you are good second. I get trying to play a wide range on the BTN with limpers in front of you, but seriously, cut these super trashy suited hands out of your range in the future from all positions. I would honestly rather have 6-7o if I were you in this spot.

Fold Preflop
As played bet $15 on flop
As played 3bet $125
Call

In low stakes games you should always look to size up whenever you can because people will get it in with any QX with a spade, most KsX with a pair and any AsX.
The point here is never to be results oriented. If most of the time they show up with those hands, and some of the time they show up with a higher flush, you must still call all of the time with the J high flush.

A pf raise might even fold out king rag suited :P. Still fold pf seems best.

I'm 50/50 on whether I even overlimp Kxs any more; Qxs- for me is just a trivial muck thanks to RIO, imo. But I'm a nit. I can't hate too hard on seeing a cheap flop on the Button, so whatever.

I might bet slightly more on the flop but whatever.

Facing the flop raise is why I fold preflop. It's not a comfortable spot against most opponents. I probably lean to just calling and evaluating the runout / action.

Facing the shove I fold against all but the most maniacy / gambooley of opponents. How often do $450 stacks fly around your table in a limped pot? Facing a 3bet on the flop which is stating we're fine playing for stacks is hugely scary at tables like this and yet he doesn't seem to care.

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This is the incorrect way to think about this scenario. More than "2 flushes" beat us. In fact, there's 8 spades left unaccounted for, which gives a maximum of 28 flush combos, and 13 of those combos beat us. And he's more likely to have the big combos than the small combos.

Moreover we're facing 350 to call into a pot of 570 if my math is right, so we have to win over 38% of the time to make this a profitable call. If he's only doing this w/ flushes and the 6 low set combos (we have 65.5% vs those), and say he moves in with 9 flush combos we beat (he folds stuff like K4s for example), then he'll need 3 combos drawing dead to us before we can call it off. If this guy is spewy and will jam 64ss here uncritically, then sure call it off.

I think we should just be calling the xr on the flop FYI if our intent isn't to exploitatively get it in against a weaker player.

If I ever make the mistake of limping pre with J2 suited, I'm never folding here vs. this player (assuming the description and range are dead-on).

Haha I guess I need to start back at square one after not thinking about poker for 10 years :P.
you could probably make a case though that the as laggy described player wouldnt limp the better aces and kings making the call a bit better or less bad in this case.

Yup exactly.

I think OP answered his own question and that he should be calling off. Like I think it's a waste to 100/fold this hand given our read, when we could've just bluff caught or let him value cut himself.