Been playing few hours with this group at the local casino. 5$/10$. Generally fun atmosphere with people playing relatively straightforward.

V1: 2 to my right. Tight player. Doesn't play too many hands, generally cautious and not bluffy. Around $600

V2: 2 to my left. Has recently joined and hasnt played too many hands. Around $700

Hero: Extremely loose. Raising almost every hand, taking down most pots with limited confrontation. $1500

To the hand

UTG limps, V1 opens from MP, HJ calls, Hero calls with 4h5s from Button, V2 calls from BB.
Pot: 150

Flop: 236 all hearts
V1 bets 75
Hero calls, V2 makes it 225, V1 calls
Hero? is this call or shove? Is it ever a fold, or too nitty?

V1 probably has strong made hand but not a flush
V2 could have a flush, a NFD, set, straight, MAYBE 2 pair or pair+ st draw

if we call, what's the plan on all unrelated turns?

Thanks

Id make a fold in a 5 way pot. Personally, dumping the 45o preflop. But on the flop given the action, you are crushed by a flush (easily possible 5 way), and every other hand that they can have, have a myriad of outs against you.

I would sigh-fold and hope the 5 of hearts doesn't peel off on the turn or river. No one has enough money to make the gut-shot straight flush draw worthwhile and any other heart will kill your hand if it's not already crushed.

Usually I would call and reevaluate on the turn if a blank comes, but since V1 and V2 both have small stacks relative to the pot and also both players seem tight and unimaginative, I would really consider folding. It really depends on your read!

1. Dude you gotta fold pre when your V are sitting on 60-70 bb The SPR is like 4 on the flop. That's horrible for 54o.
2. Folding here is not too nitty when V1 is leading this flop and V2 is raising it

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It sometimes happens but they most often can't BOTH be bull****ting.

When V2 raises, especially with his sizing, we're generally drawing to one out here. NFDs would raise much larger, 2P is probably not in his PF range, and usually doesn't raise flop anyway. Sets might raise flop, and would take this line pre-flop, however they don't raise here 100% of the time, and they still have a decent amount of equity against us.

V1's range for betting flop then just calling is probably an over-pair with a heart, or AhXx, but there's a non-zero chance of him having the nut-flush here.

I put our hand against these ranges, and even if V2 raises all sets here, if he calls all AhXh, all broadway heart combos, and all suited heart connectors, we only have 20% equity against both their ranges.

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Board: 2h3h6h
Equity Win Tie
UTG 20.60% 20.50% 0.09% { 5s4h }
UTG+1 21.86% 21.76% 0.09% { AdAh, AhAs, AhAc, KdKh, KhKs, KhKc, QdQh, QhQs, QhQc, JdJh, JhJs, JhJc, TdTh, ThTs, ThTc, AhKh, AhQh, AhKd, AhKs, AhKc, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc }
UTG+2 57.55% 57.46% 0.09% { 66, 33-22, KhAh, QhAh, JhAh, ThAh, 9hAh, 8hAh, 7hAh, 6hAh, 5hAh, 4hAh, 3hAh, 2hAh, KhQh, KhJh, QhJh, KhTh, QhTh, JhTh, Th9h, 9h8h, 8h7h }

Fold pre....if you're gonna play it, raise it from the button.

after V1 calls the flop raise, Fold.

Fold pre or raise pre, def fold flop unless you love variance.