1-3, extremely loose passive table. No shortage of players willing to call up to $17 pre with anything.

Hero $460 been at table a little over an hour. Have shown 1 huge bluff where I was in BB with 95ss, 6 limpers. Flop Kc Qc 3h utg1 bets (spewing chips left and right and I think I actually saw steam coming out his ears) everyone folded to me, so I saw an opportunity to run a bluff and took it... Turn Ad, hero x, UTG bet 25, I raised to $60...UTG tank called and was literally pounding the table in anger... River 5c , I lead out $70 (and was immediately worried it wasn't enough) UTG was literally squirming in his chair making noises with his mouth and he said "will you show me if I fold?" Normally I don't say a word when someone says that, but with this guy, I knew he would fold if I said yes. So I said yes. He folded and I showed. So I have been playing pretty straight up since this.

V $800+ running like god. Older reg, pretty typical older reg except on a power run. Have history with him, so he probably sees me as laggy.

Otth

3 limpers
Hero 460 in late MP over limps with 77
Button limps and sb completes
V in bb makes it 14
3 calls
Hero calls
Button calls
Sb folds

Flop (68) 766 r
Hero leads 38
3 folds
Hero calls (put v on over pair and didn't want to raise and blow him off the hand)
Button folds
HU to turn

Turn (144) J
V bets $38
Hero raises to $125
V tank calls

River (394) 6
V checks
Hero? Had about $290 left. I liked this card because it made it less likely I had a 6 in my hand and it gave v a full house with an over pair. Do you shove here or make some smaller value bet hoping to induce?

Edit: I meant to say, do you shove here or make a smaller value bet hoping to keep in 99 etc

Comments on all streets appreciated

Easiest shove in the history of poker.

You think TT is calling a shove?

X2, best river card you could have seen.

Honest question: what would you call $290 with on that board?

He called a big turn raise, he should be willing to call a shove after he sees a great river.

Wouldn't he fold TT on the turn, if at all?

Jx, QQ+ certainly aren't folding.

The problem with shoving here is that you risk sending your chips flying across the table into your opponents head, penetrating his skull and slowly passing through his brain, kinda like this



and then it turns into a whole thing with the cops and the family crying at the trial and the CNN interview where you relive the moment telling them "but I had the ****ing nuts!" and then the host is like "woah woah woah you cant say that on TV"




and then your life starts spiraling out of control with your newfound winnings doing cocaine off hookers asses



and such until you find yourself hanging out with a dead seymour hoffman contemplating the existential dilemma of whether to ship top boat vs an old man nit who raised the entire table out of position and then you stop.... realize "jesus ****ing christ if he has any high pocket pair, he's paying this off every time right?" So you ship and he inexplicably shows a 6 and you're like



Did the Germans just beat Brasil 7-1? He mucks before you ask to see his other card because you're pretty sure it's a misdeal and he had this



but it's too late so you come here and decide to make a thread wondering if you bet less and he check-raised could you fold.

With your image I like a flop raise to $100-$120, I wouldn't worry about losing him (unless he's a MUBsby old guy) since no one folds overpairs, especially not since you just showed a huge bluff.

A raise to 120 makes the pot 300 and you have 340 back, so that's easy to get in over two streets.

I don't know how he could put me on Jx , what am I calling the flop for with Jx?

Exactly. Jx seems extremely unlikely, and another 6 came out. So why would he fold TT now?

Did he show up with JJ? I guess??

Odd line for JJ IMO ... But that's obviously the only hand I'm worried about, and based on his line I kinda discounted that hand.

The call on the turn for v was $87 more with one more card to come and a chance to win ~$300 roughly 3.5/1... An all in on the river that obviously didn't hit v would be about 2/1 odds, so I think it would be harder for him to call with QQ 88-TT. The only hands I think he's calling an ai with are KK+ or JJ

People don't fold boats in 1/2.

I like this, and I probably should have raised flop given my image

I don't like the history hand. Trying to get a spewy tilty guy who's betting into the world in a multiway limped pot seems like suicide to me.

I play preflop the same way. We just have 0 FE at tables like this, let's just setmine.

I'm guessing you meant Villain leads flop. I would raise the flop. Everyone else other than the Button has folded, so it's not as if flatting will likely get to milk anyone else. We have an aggrotard image thanks to history hand plus prior history with villain. Villain looks super strong (raising from the blinds and cbetting into the world). Heck, he might even get out-of-line versus us with just overs, but there's no way he's folding an overpair right now. I would just raise to $100, which will create a $270 pot with $345 left, setting up an easy bet/shove situation for turn/river. ETA: Another reason to raise now is before scare cards come which might prevent your Villain from putting in more money (such as an overcard falling on the turn which puts his big pair as an underpair).

As played (flatting the flop to raise the turn in order to setup a river shove) definitely isn't horrible and is a decent alternate plan.

The river is only ever a shove, and anything else is really really really bad. One, he's never folding a fullhouse. Two, our image. Three, let's say he calls a bet of $175 50% of the time; for a shove of $290 to be as profitable, we'd have to expect him to call just 30% of the time. Is he calling a large bet 50% of the time and a shove (which really isn't all that much more) only ~half as much? No, he's probably calling it like just a smidge less, like 45% or whatever. Cliffs: Shove, anything else is horrible.

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I should also say he was very mubsy and was folding a lot to aggression. Verbally saying things like I can't believe you caught that ace etc etc...

I had a great read on him, I think the only thing I did wrong in that hand was not bet enough on the river, but it ended up being enough anyway...

I would value bet 0.6P OTR as a shove would scream 6x (very well in our limp/call range).

It's not like 1/3 Vs would call it off here thinking that the probabilities of us having a 6 are minimal given the river was another 6; they'll just get scared anyway, think "HE HAS QUADS OR 7s/6s FULL and I must FOLD now" and fold their AA-QQ anyway.

The only exception being Vs image which might bring the shove in his favor here. But even then, NO.

But then again, I'm terrible.

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I would never call my own bet like you did on the flop. It's a terrible play when you put your own money in against your own money and all.

Villain betting into five opponents on the flop screams strength. I'm raising there. Probably around 100, but I wouldn't hate it if you went to like 85-90. Basically you want to bloat the pot and set up for a bet on the turn and a shove on the river. If a few of the other villains had called his bet, I don't mind overcalling at all.

On the turn your raise is fine (because you've gotta raise at some point), but honestly it's repping 6x or 77. I don't really know what kind of Jx hands you're calling the flop with in the first place, but I certainly wouldn't be raising any of them after villain showed so much strength up until this point. This is another reason why I like a flop raise better. You can represent hands like 88-TT when you raise this flop, while a later raise just looks like exactly what it is: a slowplayed monster.

River is a must shove. His call on the turn means he's ahead of Jx (or has Jx) and felt good about his hand. The final 6 improves it. You're missing tons of value by betting smaller.

Fantastic

I nominate Javi for Poty.

You the real MVP javi. BRAVO