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08-16-2018 , 01:42 AM
Villain 1(about 700 )-older white male. Had been play on g pretty tight for the last hour or two I sat down. I had only seen him bet with top pair+.

Villain 2 (about 450)-middle aged Indian woman. Generally playing loose passive. Saw her show down 1 bluff but generally calling station and in a lot of pots.

Hero (about 450)- 20s white male. Playing tight agressivehas not shown any bluffs or been caught bluffing by the table. Had a big pot with villain two where she two outed my kings on the turn.

Hero-bb 3d5h

Villain 1-mp

Villain 2-co

Preflop- 5 limpers to hero in bb who checks.

Flop $12 ac2h4d
Sb checks, hero bets $15, folds to villain 1 in mp who calls pretty quickly, fold to villain 2 who calls, sb folds.

Turn $57 7c
Hero thinks briefly and bets $35, villain 1 calls quickly, villain two thinks briefly and calls.

River $162 9s
Hero?
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08-16-2018 , 03:11 AM
I guess lead again like 90. V1 will have an ace but might not bet it if checked to. If he has A9 he probably raises. I wouldn't rely on V2 to bluff into two players. I think this is a spot where you want to go for the obvious small/medium value rather than take some FPS line on a futile quest to get stacks in. If V1 has two pair and doesn't raise that's going to be annoying, but I don't think that's often enough to justify going for a x/r.
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08-16-2018 , 11:24 AM
I also check preflop.

Love our slight overbet on the flop.

I probably bet slightly more on the turn but whatever.

These guys aren't huge bluffers so I'm definitely not checking / betting small to induce, so I'm leading big. The only question is the sizing. With the nuts, it's never a horrendous idea to simply shove here, especially with the woman calling station in the mix. If we think that is simply too much of an overbet to ever get called, I simply bet upwards of ~PSB.

ETA: Last night I saw a player I consider a very good player (but I very rarely play with him since he more shows up later in the evening to play with the late night crowd) shove $300 into $50 on the river and get paid off. Now admittedly he had 55 on like a K95cc6cKr runout and it was very likely his opponent had trip Ks or the flush, and it was "only" for $300 instead of $400 (like it would be here), but it is still reason enough to illustrate why shoving isn't horrendous (even though we'll often think it is in the moment if we get folds).

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08-16-2018 , 11:42 AM
I would definitely lead and probably bet under 100, for exploitive reasons. I find a passive players often have an extra resistance point at the $100size unless they have become conditioned to it, with lots of 100+ actions in previous hands.

If the table had played “big” I’d go for full pot if not 90.

Well played up to this point IMHO.
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08-16-2018 , 11:54 AM
Definitely betting again. Too many hands V will check back that will call a bet from us.

I would bet $100 and hope someone slow played a set so we can backshove.
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08-16-2018 , 03:50 PM
Same as everyone else, though maybe a little higher on the river. The good news is no draws missed so you’re hopefully against a set and two pair. Would be comfortable between $85-120 on the river.

I assume your question on the river is how much to bet, not if to bet. Bet, bet, check on a drawless run out from the BB in a limped pot would be torching value. b/b/b all the way.
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08-16-2018 , 05:37 PM
OTT, you could size up facing 2 V's who are very inelastic with Ax.

OTR, both V's flatting turn means you are targeting Ax OTR, so a small bet 1/2p is best IMO.
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08-17-2018 , 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorn7
Definitely betting again. Too many hands V will check back that will call a bet from us.

I would bet $100 and hope someone slow played a set so we can backshove.
+1
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08-17-2018 , 12:22 AM
I love this line so far. Slight overbet on flop will get action due to pot size and many will float the this size flop bet not believing you have an Ace. If you size to strong on the turn we could get too many folds. I also agree with Gus on river sizing points. If you've seen either player make a call for $200 or so then maybe overbet the pot to $175 OTR. If not I would bet value and hope to get raised around $85. We may even get two calls if we size this small which is almost as good as getting action on the overbet.
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