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Hero just sat at table coming from a broken table with $500 stack. Comes with older guy that was from same table and we are talking and bring energy to the table. Hero plays two hands first orbit so probably does not have exactly a tag image but is tag.

Villian, tag looking young guy.

This hand happened within 10 hands of being at table.

$300 effective stacks

Villian raises to 10 UTG 1 caller folds to hero who calls with 22.

Flop(33) Kd 2s 5h Villian bets 20 other guy folds hero flats

Turn(73) 8c Villian bets 40 hero calls

River(153) 9s Villian bets 50 hero jams for 175 more

The $50 river bet into $150 is probably a blocking bet with Kx.

Looks pretty standard to me. Only logical hand that you could be behind is KK

Standard. I think raising anywhere but river looks too strong with the lack of draws on board.

set of 8s maybe.

I don't see much point to raising flop here.

88 is possible, but he went 2/3psb, 1/2psb, 1/3psb and the whole board is dry as a bone

That line doesn't really scream set to me, I think it's Kx more times than not. Can we get a crying call to a shove is the real question?

On the flop I'm thinking about how can I ensure all of the money get in the pot?

I would raise to 50. Villan raised to 10 from early position so a K could be in his range.

If he calls we now have 133 in the pot. If V checks turn you can bet 75 which leaves you about 100 on the river to bet.

AP I think your river shove is too big and gives away your hand.

Doesn't raising any street give away my hand strength on this board? I thought flatting streets and jamming river would be best since since I have position and AA has to call at this point and AK has a tough decision and probably calls a good chunk of time. Also when it comes to river bet sizing it is a pot sized shove and if I was going to bluff or get weird it would be with a jam. What other raise options do I have here? Min raise or raise to 125? That just looks stronger imo. With that said I think the combos that call my bet are 6 combos of AA, 12 of AK and 3 of KK. I'll also add 3 combos of 88 and I discount 99 because I doubt he barrels that hand. I almost would discount 88 since a lot limp that hand UTG but lets count it. So 18 combos that I beat and 6 that beat me so my shove should be called by worse about 75% of the time? Am I doing it right?

Edit, I also thought jamming river could rep 43s, A4s, A3s aswell since I assumed villian was a semi thinking player who is aware of draws.

raising anywhere is pretty strong. I think your raise is a tad ambitious and not sure he pays you off with much worse.

Perhaps min raising river would be the best play vs someone who bets so small.

Or min raising turn as it just looks suspect when you do. Than you can just bet $100 on the river if he checks. Other than that it looks fine and good.

Board is super dry and we flopped the nuts with the turn and river bricks essentially.

It is basically a sin to flat this river as played and is this the best line? There are really no cards that can come on turn or river that kill my action except maybe a 6. Also I think the highest chances of getting value from AK is by taking this line. Agree or disagree? I think if I raise flop and barrel AK is going to fold more often then by call, call, raise jam river. I think AA is almost always stacking off reguardless.

Edit, I can see merit in minraising river aince I get pretty much gaurunteed value from AK instead of only 70% like the jam gets. EV calc anyone? Im on my phone. Tbh I don't always jam this river but since I was new and probably had a looser image then I normally would I thought I might get paid off.

Assuming he has a King, the problem with jamming the river here versus making a flop raise is two fold

A. Raising the river, his King has to not only be scared of a set, it is scared of 85/89/67(float). So the river raise is extremely polarized, you either have him crushed or have air. If he has AA/AK/KQ type hands, he knows he's never going to call and you turn over KT.

B. Raising the flop, not only builds a bigger pot, but you represent a bigger group of hands that he can actually beat. Raising flop you can have the type of hands that raise to "see where they are at" such as JJ/5x/Kx.

example

Flop(33) Kd 2s 5h Villian(290) bets 20 other guy folds hero raises to 50, Villain calls

Turn(133) 8c Villian(240) checks hero bets 80 villain calls

River(293) 9s Villian(160) checks hero jams for 160

So in the second scenario you have built the pot to bigger than in the previous case, you have also given him "pot odds" to call, and a chance to bet/raise incorrectly throughout the entire hand!

Very well said rage. I like your thought process behind it.

Rage - I think you and I are on the same page. $175 river bet won't get called but building bigger pit on flop and turn allows you to make a smaller river allin bet that may get called.

Raise turn to make the river shove easier.

Otherwise nh

I'd raise the flop if I knew he had AA/AK. But if I thought he also had AQ-A10s, QQ, JJ, 10s, KQ, KJ, + a few unknown pairs and SCs, I'd play as OP did.

this looks good to me

i was originally thinking raise somewhere (flop or turn) but there are no draws so flatting is fine

Grunch:

Meh.

We need to get $265 in on the turn and the river.
If he doesn't bet the river that just isn't going to happen often enough.
However if we raise the turn to $100 or $110 we only need to put $155 - $165 in on the river, and the pot will already have ~$290 in there.

Overall the line isn't terrible. And given how dry the board is, I do generally like to play it a bit slower, as we have no draws in our range if V is thinking about that at all.
I just think that we put our self in a bad spot on the river when he checks to us.
We limit our ability to get the rest of our money in. So generally I like to put a raise in somewhere.