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1/2: Flat or Raise River IP with underepped Top 2 1/2: Flat or Raise River IP with underepped Top 2

08-26-2018 , 07:48 AM
Villain ($400): 40's WG, only been playing with him for an hour, but compared to the other mostly loose passive limpers, he seems a bit more disciplined pre, and hasn't raised pre. Just by the way he carries himself he seems somewhat competent. He seems like a rock who probably misses a lot of value in spots, but just by his disciplined play eeks out a profit against the loose-passive 1/2 universe.

Hero ($350): 30ish WG, true TAG image, and much more aggressive than the rest of the table. I've raised pre a lot more than anyone else, and have made a few big river bets (always had the goods, but only 1 was showed down).

OTTH... V limps UTG+1, 2 other limpers, Hero makes it $15 with AK. Only V calls.

Flop ($35): AK5 V checks. Hero bets $25. V calls.

Turn ($85): AK5 2 V checks. Hero checks.

River ($85):AK5 2 Q V leads $35.

Hero?? I've missed a lot of thin value at times and have been trying to find spots, but with his lead on the river, wasn't sure if this was the right spot.

My thought on the turn was that this guy was disciplined enough where he was folding an unpaired A-rag, so with this call on the flop, I just didn't see a lot of value in firing a second barrel on the turn, but was planning to bet river myself and thought underepping on the turn gave me the best chance to get called.
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08-26-2018 , 09:10 AM
I think if you have aggressive image like you said, its fine to double barrel here. If this guy is disciplined like you said, why would he limp call UTG+1 with A-rag? , He can definitely have some Ax combos so maybe just size down on the turn to keep him in but I think its fine to go for 3 streets of value here, if he folds then he folds
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08-26-2018 , 09:39 AM
Always raising river, AP. His lead is small and he could often have AQ here.
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08-26-2018 , 11:16 AM
$110.

55 likely to bet more on river with high ranking cards out there, perhaps even C/R flop. QQ folding flop. Value betting AQ/KQ/A5.
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08-26-2018 , 11:29 AM
I bet the turn all day here. On the river u can go to like 85 and fold to a reraise
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08-26-2018 , 11:57 AM
Obvious 3 street value hand. Bet/bet/bet. Maybe Size down a little on the turn 2/5 pot, this isn’t really thin value at all.
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08-26-2018 , 03:55 PM
It seems most comments are focusing on the turn, which is fine, but I'd also appreciate more comments OTR AP.

On the turn, I just ask that folks accept my read that V was fairly tight and not spewy. I think he may have limp/called with A-rag suited, and peeled one street (which is why I sized fairly big on flop), but I just didn't think that ATs or less (except for A5s/A2s obv) would call a decent turn bet, but if checked back on turn might very well call the same sized river bet. Only value I think I'm getting on turn bet is AQ/AJ/A5/A2.

After he calls the bigger flop bet, I felt like it was a (mostly)WA / (rarely)WB scenario and thus the value of betting goes down if only a tiny portion of his (losing) range is calling.
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08-26-2018 , 04:02 PM
Think the river is a pretty slamdunk raise for value as played, especially against that weak under half pot sizing.
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08-26-2018 , 04:39 PM
OTR I'd raise for sure, you're putting him on AX combos? you crush all of these combos , he can easily have an inferior 2 pair that will pay off or call with A10/AJ type of hand; you crush this board
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08-26-2018 , 07:30 PM
Bet, bet, bet. Value time! Save the checks for when you actually need to pot control. AP, his river sizing seems pretty weak; could be a blocker bet trying to set his price for showdown. I'd raise to $90. Don't worry about J-10 at this point. Focus on extracting value from weaker Ax and 2p holdings. If he's disciplined like you say, I doubt he'd call a $25 bet on the flop with a gutshot anyway.
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08-26-2018 , 10:36 PM
What are we afraid of otr ap? With your description of villain as disciplined and competent, is he slow rolling 55 for a $35 river? I don't think so. Fist pump raise otr, I'm thinking like 105/115.
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