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12-17-2018 , 12:22 PM
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effective stack is 175
loose passive 1/2 NL game

I open 67 in LP to 11, 4 callers, I believe i was last act post flop.

FLOP:258

EP is AI for 30, 2 calls in front of me , the players that called the 30 do have roughly the same stack size as me. pot ( 134 ) on the flop and I have 165 in front of me.

How do you play this flop? should I be concerned with bigger FD's? The player who shoved OTF for 30 could have ATC so not worried about him too much , we must go to showdown here however so how much do we gain by folding out the other players here?

I think this was an interesting spot looking back at it,

thanks for any feedback
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12-17-2018 , 12:28 PM
For less than 100bb and the pot as big as it is, I shove.

Maybe you can fold out bigger flush draws, and if not you have some of there outs and six clean ones
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12-17-2018 , 12:45 PM
Rip it
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12-17-2018 , 12:57 PM
I went 85 more here leaving myself around 50 behind, I did this simply to get as much money in there as possible seeing how I feel I have to make my hand to win this one; not sure if ripping it is a better play though
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12-17-2018 , 01:00 PM
So, if they just flat, you are folding the turn for $50 if you don't hit? Ugh. Just shove.
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12-17-2018 , 01:14 PM
You are behind if villain has TP and a spade in his hand. Even when you are a little ahead of him with your 15 outs, you are not much ahead. Just 52-48. The 15 outs looks good to you but not worth much when you think that when you draw you still lose 48 times out of 100.
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12-17-2018 , 01:21 PM
How many limpers were there pre before you made the raise?

I think stacks are too shallow for a raise with 76 here.

As played, I would just put it in.
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12-17-2018 , 01:43 PM
I think about 3 limpers pf
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12-17-2018 , 01:45 PM
No need to shove, you have no show down value vs an allin and I doubt very much anyone folds a higher flush draw for 130 more with all the money in there. In fact it's almost impossible to fold out ace high flush draw here at low stakes live. They will be getting almost 4 to 1 on their money.

Chances are very good you are up against another fd here with 2 callers considering you have all the straight drawing cards.

Though you could see medium pocket pairs show up and possibly hands like a8.

You take a turn for 30

On the turn it's now possible to fold those higher flush draws which have you crushed on the flop. But you still need to beat the all in.

If the turn is a 6/7 and it is checked to you. Jam

4 or 9 non-spade obvious jam

Any spade, evaluate action.

Anything else, take what is hopefully a free card because it's a dry side pot.

Last edited by StinkHolePatrol; 12-17-2018 at 02:01 PM.
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12-17-2018 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tmo1120
I think about 3 limpers pf
Given the shallow stack sizes and the number of limpers, I would have just limped behind.

If there is a chance they would all fold to a raise, then size the raise larger to $18-20.

But as played, all-in.
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