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Originally Posted by Case2
I'd make a normal cbet on this flop. I'm not worried about getting x/r because we're not in great shape even against a semi-bluff and I'm looking to either collect the pot OTF or maybe get to a cheap showdown. Basically, a x/r is often going to be a sign that we're either somewhat ahead or way behind and I'm happy to bail out in that case.
I'd be more likely to check back a hand like TdTx, where we have more equity and getting x/r is a more difficult decision. I'm betting very strong hands (hoping to catch a second-best hand) or weaker hands (hoping to take it down). Hands in the middle are candidates for checking back. I think TT without a diamond is a bit too weak to check here.
Ok ya I agree with the bet strong hands, check middling hands and bet weaker hands. But generally those weaker hands are straight up bluffs, which isn't the case here, so it's an interesting spot. Against players who rarely ever check raise I think it's a clear bet. But when they are capable of check raising, it's a lot more tricky.
My thoughts:
-There are times when we do showdown our hand after being called on the flop, but i dont think this happens
very often
-They can fold tons of equity. BUT would we not be better off betting with straight up bluffs if we're not that likely to get to showdown anyway?
- In the instances they check raise, we're "bluffing" with a decent hand, which is wasted. Better to bluff with air?
- advantage of checking: IF a blank hits (big if) and both villains check, we pretty much have the nuts. We'd turn a very unsure situation into a very sure situation.
I agree it would be better to check T
Tx for the reasons you mentioned, plus it's less likely he has a diamond. I think the clearest checks are A
Ax and K
Kx. Can't decide if AA/KK w/ no diamond are better checks or not. Also, I think being in position makes a check better than when we're oop, I think because of our ability to pot control but I'm not sure about this either. I lean towards checking but it's far from a sure thing.