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Originally Posted by Izen
What should we really be looking for when we decide to triple barrel and make sure we don't get called down too light?
The best hand relative to our opponents'range. If they are going to call you down light then you should value bet light even if this results in variance (you'll value own yourself from time to time). The main benefit of having a spewy image is they are going to pay you off lighter than they would if you had a nitty image. Therefore if for example you raised ATs from the cutoff or button against 1 or 2 limpers, and the highest card on the flop was a T, you might want to bet 3 streets for value, including potting the river even if a K or a backdoor flush comes.
If you have a spewy image, its generally not a good idea to be triple barrel bluffing into a player with no equity. When they check/call the turn, they usually intend to check/call the river. But if you
are going to try this, its better to do it against an opponent who likes folding and on a board which changes on the river. For exampe if a flush card arrives (and we have a blocker) or if an A or a K hits the board.
If on the other hand you have an extremely tight image and players are aware of this, you have more reason to empty the clip with a hand like AK against an overly loose opponent capable of folding. If they haven't seen you play a hand in the last 2 hours, its scary as phaark when yoy suddenly come to life and barrel 3 streets.
But if one of the main weakness at your table is villains calling down too light (and it often will be), it doesn't make sense to create a strategy around barreling with air. When you bet the river, you will want to have value more often than you have air.
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Originally Posted by Izen
Also should we be tightening up our range significantly in ep and mp to try and play more pots in position and maybe get a lot more of our hands to showdown?
Yes, we should be tightening up our range significantly in ep and mp.
There really is not much excuse for ever opening e.g. K9s from ep or mp when stacks are 100bb. If you do this, whether you realise it yet or not, you're probably just bleeding money.
If on the other hand you are in the cutoff or buttion and 1 or 2 loose/weak players limp to you then K9s could suddenly become a playable hand.
You'll want to think about stack sizes:
1 limper to hero ($200 effective stacks)
Hero raises to 14, 1 call
Flop: Hero bets 20 into 27, V calls
Turn: Hero (with equity) bets 40 into 67 threatening a bet of 126 into 147 on the river.
I'm not sure what you mean by
trying to get more hands to showdown. Getting to get to showdown is something you do with a hand which has showdown value but if we bet we're only getting called by better. With 100bb effective stacks getting to showdown is not something we're
trying to do with TPTK. If you have a spewy image and top pair or better, presumably you want to bet the same amount as you do with your bluffs or perhaps even more. They will get curious and call you eventually. Generally speaking, just bet the same amount and leave the decision up to them. That's just general advice. Obviously there are going to be some board textures and situations where it makes sense to vary our betting size.
Last edited by Nogyong; 01-12-2018 at 03:23 PM.