So are you suggesting that even if a K or Q comes on flop, we ship it if checked to us? How would you play it in that situation?

Huh? The SPR is 1.5. We'll take our chances on fading a set. He's not going to make a set often enough at these stacks for us to worry about leaving him in. And just because a K or Q comes doesn't mean we're beat. Like really, what's more likely: the flop comes K72 and we lose a cooler to KK, or the flop comes T high and we get stacks in way ahead? Heck even combo wise he could have up to 6 AK combos that he could think are the nuts on K72.


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I understand the likelihood of a K and/or Q coming out on flop is not all that great especially if he has KK or QQ. I also understand the merits of flatting in this spot. Believe me I've been on the receiving end of people flatting my INITIAL raises and 3 bets with their KK and AA so I definitely understand flatting in this scenario.

I guess putting yourself in a situation where the SPR is less than 2 makes your decision making actually easier on the flop than what I was initially envisioning.

Yeah like bear in mind my advice would be very different if we were like 400 bb deep. Then we can 5 bet AA and maybe KK and throw some bluffs in there and torture our opponents and potentially put ourselves in a position to win an absurd pot. But here, there's just not much left after the 4 bet. We're just 146 bb to start, so it'll be around 74 bb w/ 111 back or so. If he has like 300 to start, there's 265 back and now we kind of screw ourselves because KK-JJ will find more potential ways that they're beat and not put the rest in.


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I like flatting here or 5betting to a tiny amount where villian is basically priced in to call. I like flatting more though as a 5b allows opponent to play correctly and will not be called light unless opponent is really bad. M

4bet sizing sets for such a Low SPR that I think seeing a flop and GII is good on almost any flop.

what is your image to the V? tight? scared? laggy? drunk? reg?

with all of those folds pre, it makes your RR to 50 look more laggy. I like a flat or a shove pre. flatting is ok, but looks super super strong. If your V is good, he could very well C/F the flop even if he has a big overpair.

prefer a shove.

Think everyone should take advantage to these spots to shove. Your image should be cultivated where shoving in spots like this, even with AA, will leave people guessing.

If you're afraid to shove in this spot cause it will be 90% AA 10% KK and it's super obvious to everyone else then you're playing too nitty and passive and ****ty throughout all other hands not just this spot.

Same with your 3b range and others 4b range vs you. If both are absurdly narrow where you need to flat the top of your range for disguise/wideness equity then you're doing it wrong in all other spots. Especially when you're the button.

It's clearly not "wrong" to flat AA because duh you have AA and almost anything will be some amount of +ev. But if flatting is the play you default to while 3b the button with 150bb or less straddle blinds then it means to me you have alot of overall leaks in your strategy and are too rigid, narrow, nitty whatever.

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