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Originally Posted by Millnoc
Thank you for adding the “and good for us” part. I often forget that picking up 5.5 BB is a fine result. BTW, whats your 3b bluff range in this spot vs an unknown asian kid UTG? If were 3b as wide as AQo and AJs and like 99+ i assume, what, if anything, are we balancing with?
Vs unknown i don't have bluffing ranges as an exploit esp BB vs UTG. UTG ranges on average tend to be stronger, and I want to flat my playable hands here like KQo/AJo/SCs closing the action and if i am getting a good price to defend.
AJs I think is a pretty clear flat from BB vs UTG. I think AJs is just a little bit too weak vs an UTG to 3b bc UTG has 16 combos of AQo/16 combos of AK, so we are in pretty bad shape bc most players arent folding AQo to a 3-bet. Plus if we get 4-bet we kinda hate our life because the suitedness is such a nice thing to have postflop and we basically got blown off it; we cant ever really call here barring some reads that he does dumb stuff like 4b 65o or a bunch of spazzy hands. Wheres AQo if we get 4b it's a whatever muck, also when we 3b we get value from AJs and some AJo UTG doesn't fold.
I don't particularly like 3-betting 99-1010 BB vs UTG either, i think flatting closing the action is a little better. They dont play well in 3b pots vs UTG 3-bet calling ranges, we are OOP, and it's really hard to 3b 99-1010 vs UTG raiser and say we are 3-betting for value. It's mergy, getting more onto the bluff side except we arent folding any better hands so it's not really a bluff.
So in a vacuum vs unknown UTG raiser from BB i'd 3b something like JJ+, AQo+ and then adjust based on what their RFI/fold to 3-bet/postflop tendencies are (e.g. do they play fit-or-fold or try to run you down postflop. I don't think balance is particularly necessary or even helpful at all esp vs an
unknown UTG raise. I'm pretty sure 3-bet bluffing vs an UTG raise is basically just lighting money on fire in a vacuum, 65s-J10s, A2s-A5s, etc. Personally I think 3b bluffing in a lot of scenarios is just FPS, especially vs people who literally dont even pay attention, vs an unknown player, and esp vs an EP raiser. 3b bluffs are technically supposed to be BE/-EV but in the context of an overall range make our value 3bs more valuable, but against most people who don't adjust, don't even care, or don't pay attention imo it's just FPS that is -EV. Like we have a lot of threads here on a weekly basis where OP is 3-betting hands like 75cc vs UTG raiser or like 95s BB vs BTN vs tight players or even LAGs.
Last edited by Minatorr; 08-12-2018 at 01:13 AM.