Hello everyone. This my official first hand recap ever so I apologise ahead of time if I mess this up. Please feel free to rag on my play if I made a mistake, that's what I'm here for.

So on to the hand,
hero on the btn with $600.

Live straddle of 4 utg. 3 limps after, I raise to 22 with AKhh. Sb, bb, utg call and the rest fold.

So four ways to the flop, 9sKc7s. Checks to me, I bet 53. Sb folds, bb tanks for about a minute and is eating the whole time. This player is a solid player and is definitely not the normal 1/2 player. He gets a little loose from time to time but I've heard him talk through hands and I've seen him make bluffs that are perfectly timed.

Anyways, he shoved for 225 more. Utg reluctantly folds and it's back to me. BB normally pays attention to the game but he's off eating to the side of the table as I'm thinking this through. I have seen him raise air like this before, so I think there are some draws in his range.

Hero??

Thanks ahead of time for any help you can give and I look forward to hearing your thoughts!

1. You should remove results from your post, as it biases answers.

2. Try to format your post a little better with separated action, effective stacks and reads on Vs (if any)

3. I can't comment on the flop play, however your preflop raise should be higher. I would go to ~$30 here in an attempt to thin the field.

Agree that you shouldnt post results and your should format the post so it is easier to read. Break up that block of text.

In the case of an unknown villian I would fold. In general if I can't beat pocket aces I dont like calling a raise to an unknown villian in 1/2.

I think call is fine if you have seen him do this with air in the past, but there are not too many draws on this board. So the question I would ask myself in this spot - did you really see him do this with AIR in the past, or does he do this with a draw?

Gotcha. Thanks. I agree that I should have made it bigger pre with all those limpers.

Is there a way to edit my original post? I don't see a button for that.

If this was an old man that never plays a hand, I'd fold. But this guy?

This guy made a very similar shove against someone the day before and ended up showing air. Said that he thought the other guy was on a draw and was playing to tight so he figured he could get away with it. And he did. Only difference was position.

He’s unlikely to be bluffing when you raise big pre and c-bet a wet Kxx flop 4-way. It sucks but sometimes you gotta let TPTK go.

For what it's worth:

An old adage in poker is when someone is eating and gets all-in (deep) they've got a big hand....

In my experience it's true

Against a player you think is solid and know can make bluffs you have to call this. Against a more typically passive 1/2 villain this is a fold, but a tougher player isn't going to have as many 2pair hands, but will have a lot of flush draw bluffs.

If we think in terms of ranges, I would put it in three categories

1. Top pair
2. Sets, two pair
3. Flush and straight draws (including combo draw)

If you consider him having (1) + (2) + (3) in his range, it's a call. If we remove (1), then it's a fold. Someone doing this with something like KQo is highly unlikely.

I don't usually recommend folding TPTK, but I can't imagine people doing this with weak draws or top pairs. Heat of the moment, I am not sure I can fold this, but that's the right play here.

Welcome to the forum, OP. You were too late to edit. The edit button goes away after a few minutes. I took care of it for you.

Annoying spot. Totally player dependent. If you have seen him do this with air or a draw I lean towards mandatory call. If were folding top of our range to a guy that has shown he can apply pressure with bluffs than we become highly exploitable. Didnt see the results but I'm guessing you called and he had a set. Oh well, reload and move on, correct call vs villian of this type. As others have said you need to size up bigger pre with 4 people already entered into the pot. AK is a strong hand but loses massive amounts of equity the more multiway you go with it.

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Others are right, pre needs to be larger due to the limpers - at least $30 if not $35.

Villain's move could be a wide range of hands, but it is never Top Pair worse kicker. He could easily have a combo draw, but could also have something like bottom 2 pair or a set. Play it safe and let it go.

More pre, like $30+.

I would let it go.

The eating thing is a read. It's unusual to pull thin moves for a lot of money while you're wrestling a sandwich at the same time.

This seems so simple to see after the fact but for some reason, it didn't cross my mind at all during my breakdown of the hand. Thanks for the help.

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While I was thinking about the hand I thought there's no way two pairs a possibility. Maybe a set but two pair is pretty loose for a call. Thinking about it now, it's not really that loose because of my bad sizing preflop, along with all the money already in there. I played it bad.

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Thank you. I'll make sure to do it right next time.

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I was definitely not happy about the spot. I was so close to folding but the fact that I'd seen him make plays and I hadn't gotten any real hands in hours, I decided on a call. The boredom mistake along with the sizing mistake preflop are things I'm working on. Sizing is not easy for me.

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I'll have to take that eating tell into account next time. Totally forgot but he wasn't sitting down for very long either. Maybe second or third orbit.

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