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Old 03-19-2019, 05:45 PM   #1
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First hand preflop decision

$1/2 bought in for $300. Walking up to the table to sit down dealer asks if I want dealt in, I say yes. Still standing with a rack and chips in my hand I see Q’s. I announce $12. UTG +1 and MP flat, BTN makes it $62 (w $128 behind). V is a LAG semi reg. UTG+1 has $170ish, MP has $300+.

H? Flatting and folding seem terrible, so I guess we’re shoving hand 1 from the standing position?
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:47 PM   #2
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Re: First hand preflop decision

The only way I'm not ripping it in here is if BTN is over 60 and has an open newspaper in front of him.
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:48 PM   #3
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Re: First hand preflop decision

Don't get dealt in UTG on your first hand.
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Old 03-19-2019, 05:52 PM   #4
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Re: First hand preflop decision

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Don't get dealt in UTG on your first hand.
Probably good advice too.

Not just for the sake of squeezing out another fraction of a bb of EV (the room I played that didn't require new players to post had a rule where, if you would be dealt in UTG, you could wait for the button to pass instead). But I like to watch for at least a hand, and be seated and ready.

Not that you were saying this, but don't be the guy who comes in in the hijack and says he'll wait for the button.
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:17 PM   #5
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Re: First hand preflop decision

Standard shove.

edit: oops I thought that he had $128 total and it would only be like $60 more.

Yeah, not a fun spot. I don't auto-stack off with QQ 100bb deep at 1/2... I don't hate a jam, but it would come down to whether you've seen villain 3bet light before. Not a fun spot.

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Old 03-19-2019, 06:18 PM   #6
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The only way I'm not ripping it in here is if BTN is over 60 and has an open newspaper in front of him.
LOL +1
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:41 PM   #7
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Re: First hand preflop decision

GII OOP w/ 90 bbs vs. a LAG is pretty standard I think. There can be some merit to flatting with the hopes of GII on the flop though. This has the added benefit of giving the tighter V's the opportunity of 4-betting. (Especially the guy 150bb's deep.) Also, position not such a big deal with an SPR of 1.

We know the main V is a LAG, but how often does he 3-bet? What is his perception of hero. I know it's a squeeze situation, but does he 3-bet an UTG opener with AJ or QJs while short stacked? If no, you may have to fold if an A or K hits the flop. If yes, check/shove(if necessary) flop. Check/shove (if necessary) turn. Shove any river to get value from his lower pairs he is pot-controlling with.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:02 PM   #8
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Re: First hand preflop decision

Thanks for the feedback, I thought jamming was pretty standard here.

V could be reasonably wide.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:16 PM   #9
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Re: First hand preflop decision

even against a range of AK, KK+ you have enough equity. Throw in some 1010/JJ/random lol spaz and it's snap jam. obv not super fist pumping but cant ever fold.
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:20 AM   #10
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Re: First hand preflop decision

V is semi-reg, but does he think of you as unknown or not?

Either way, doesn't really matter.

Unrack your chips straight into the commitment line and say good luck!
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:44 AM   #11
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Re: First hand preflop decision

Edit, misread how deep btn was. Vs a lag i think stacking off is normally fine unless he knows your ep opening range really well and isnt getting out of line - though even then a lag still always does this with ak.
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