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First hand middle set facing turn c/r First hand middle set facing turn c/r

04-16-2014 , 03:10 AM
1-2 $300 max buy-in

Hero: 20s white male wearing glasses. Just sat down, so any image I have is that of a stereotypical 20s white guy with glasses. Take that as you will. Stack $300

Villain 1: 40s white male. Pretty sure he's a bad reg; only unsure about the reg part. I've been at a table with him before and he just limped and called (unless nutter hands obv). Either way, I'm not worried about him having position on me. Stack $220

Villain 2: older Chinese gentleman. I'm in seat 1 and he's in seat 9 so I can barely see him. He's probably 50+ and his stack is 3 large random stacks. Stack ~$500

On to the hand!

UTG limps, Hero limps in MP w/ 55, Villain 1 limps in NJ, BTN limps, and Villain 2 checks his option in BB.

Flop: 456 (pot $10)

UTG checks, hero bets 10, villain 1 calls, Btn folds, villain 2 calls, and Utg folds.

Turn 456J ( pot $40)

Villain 2 checks, hero bets 35, villain 1 calls, villain 2 raises to 130, hero..?

When villain 2 raised I saw the surprise on villain 1's face. He took his card protector off and as I went into tank he had that "I'm waiting for you to take action so I can fold" stuff going on. I don't believe it's an act, but nothing is certain in poker.
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Last edited by NebDanger; 04-16-2014 at 03:40 AM. Reason: Fixed suits finally
First hand middle set facing turn c/r Quote
04-16-2014 , 03:18 AM
Your suits are messed up...what were they?
First hand middle set facing turn c/r Quote
04-16-2014 , 03:38 AM
Assuming our read on V1's action is correct, then it's an easy shove.

Suits are still messed up (is that the 6d or 6c?)

Given he is in BB, V2 can have all 2P combos in his range, especially the Jx two pair combos.

The last thing we want is to flat here and have a 2, 3, 7 ,8 roll off on the river and then have him hero-fold J4dd.

Against a range of J4, J5, J6, 44, 66, JJ, 23, 37, 78 we have 42.74% equity, and if we discount JJ (could have raised pre) and straights (could have raised flop), then we have 62.78% equity (only suited straights and one combo of JJ).

If we include 45, 56, 46 in his range then our equity becomes 71.94% against this range.

Either way we have the right price to get it in on the turn.

So get it in.
First hand middle set facing turn c/r Quote
04-16-2014 , 03:40 AM
The suits are finally right, sorry about that.
First hand middle set facing turn c/r Quote
04-16-2014 , 03:47 AM
Here's against all his 2 pair+ hands

Ace Poker Drills Poker Equity Calculator
Board: 4h 5d 6d Jc

Equity Win Tie Hand Range
51.2138% 51.2138% 0% [ Jd4d(100), Js4s(100), Jd4c(100), Jd4s(100), Jh4c(100), Jh4d(100), Jh4s(100), Js4c(100), Js4d(100), Js5s(100), 5s4s(100), 5c4d(100), 5c4h(100), 5c4s(100), 5d4c(100), 5d4h(100), 5d4s(100), 5h4c(100), 5h4d(100), 5h4s(100), 5s4h(100), 6c6h(100), 6c6s(100), 6h6s(100), 4c4d(100), 4c4s(100), 4d4s(100), JdJh(100), JdJs(100), JhJs(100), 87o(100), 87s(100), 73o(100), 73s(100), 32o(100), 32s(100), Jh6h(100), Js6s(100), Jd6c(100), Jd6h(100), Jd6s(100), Jh6c(100), Jh6s(100), Js6c(100), Js6h(100), Jd5c(100), Jd5h(100), Jd5s(100), Jh5c(100), Jh5s(100), Js5c(100), Js5h(100), 6c4c(100), 6s4s(100), 6c4d(100), 6c4s(100), 6h4c(100), 6h4d(100), 6h4s(100), 6s4c(100), 6s4d(100) ]
48.7862% 48.7862% 0% [ 5h5c ]


When I eliminate about 60% of his 2 pair combos:

Ace Poker Drills Poker Equity Calculator
Board: 4h 5d 6d Jc

Equity Win Tie Hand Range
63.3729% 63.3729% 0% [ 5s4s(100), 5h4c(100), 5h4d(100), 5s4h(100), 6c6h(100), 6c6s(100), 6h6s(100), 4c4d(100), 4c4s(100), 4d4s(100), JdJh(100), JdJs(100), JhJs(100), 87o(100), 87s(100), 73o(100), 73s(100), 32o(100), 32s(100), 6c4c(100), 6s4s(100), 6h4c(100), 6s4c(100), 6s4d(100), Jd6c(100), Jh6c(100), Js6c(100), Jd5c(100), Jh5c(100), Js5c(100), Jh4c(100), Js4c(100), Js4d(100) ]
36.6271% 36.6271% 0% [ 5h5c ]

Here are just sets and str8s:

Ace Poker Drills Poker Equity Calculator
Board: 4h 5d 6d Jc

Equity Win Tie Hand Range
75.5981% 75.5981% 0% [ 6c6h(100), 6c6s(100), 6h6s(100), 4c4d(100), 4c4s(100), 4d4s(100), 87o(100), 87s(100), 73o(100), 73s(100), 32o(100), 32s(100), JdJh(100), JdJs(100), JhJs(100) ]
24.4019% 24.4019% 0% [ 5h5c ]


Here is just Str8s:

Ace Poker Drills Poker Equity Calculator
Board: 4h 5d 6d Jc

Equity Win Tie Hand Range
77.4148% 77.4148% 0% [ 87o(100), 87s(100), 73o(100), 73s(100), 32o(100), 32s(100) ]
22.5852% 22.5852% 0% [ 5h5c ]



Honestly it comes down to how v overvalues hands. Is he ever checking 2 pair otf? Would he like to peel one off b4 committing w/2 pair? Would he just call down w/2 pair scared of a str8?

You didn't really give any reads on how he played so really it's just guess work. I can give him all 2 pair+ hand combos or we can just give him str8s or top set. Given we really don't know I think I'm calling and I suspect only the nuts will put in a significant bet otr.

I was in a similar situation except I'd played w/villain dozens if not 100s of hours and knew he had the nuts or close to it when i had 77 on a 765 flop. However I was getting a better price and knew villain would call a big bet later if I filled up. So I called 20 in a pot of 50 and later got around a 90 bet called otr after filling up ott along w/another 20 from another villain in the hand.

Last edited by DeuceSeven; 04-16-2014 at 03:52 AM.
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04-16-2014 , 05:02 AM
Call.
First hand middle set facing turn c/r Quote
04-16-2014 , 05:11 AM
I would just shove. We have ok equity vs. 87 and I'd expect to see 44, 65, 64, 54, or some weird OESD+pair enough to make this +EV.

100bb deep, I think its a mistake to not just get your money in with a set on a wet board.
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