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Old 10-08-2017, 12:45 PM   #1
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A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

Hand 1

Hero has about $300 and is in the BB with 5h6h. Villain covers.

UTG +1 opens to $25 (wtf is this sizing honestly), 4 callers, hero calls because pot odds (too loose?)

Pot size: $146 (accounting for rake)

Flop: 3d4h9h

Villain bets $100, folds around. Hero ???

Hand 2

Hero has $380. Villain has around $350.

Hero is in the cutoff with AJo. 3 limpers, Villain in the hijack raises to $12. Hero 3bets to $50 to isolate and maybe get a fold. Folds around to villain who hesitantly calls.

We have some history with villain, often clashing in decent sized pots over the course of the past few hours. He's a really solid player, capable of making moves with complete air and calling down light on boards with whiffed draws.

Pot: $108

Flop: JT6r

Villain checks, hero bets $70, villain tanks for 30s or so and jams. Hero ???

Hand 3

Hero is on the button with AdJd and $250 behind. No reads on villain who has about $200.

Villain opens to $9 in the hijack. Folds to Hero who 3bets to $30. Folds to Villain who calls.

Pot: $58

Flop: 9dQd4c

Villain leads for $15 (wat). Hero raises to $45. Villain jams. Hero ???
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Old 10-08-2017, 01:09 PM   #2
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

You'll get a lot more responses, with a lot more depth, if you post each hand separately. Also, you need to include your image in V's eyes and at least demographic info about Vs if you don't have any reads.

As posted, Hand 1 is an obvious jam, Hand 2 is a check OTF vs. described V, and Hand 3 is a call OTF the first time to flush-over-flush him.
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:16 PM   #3
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

H1 is just a super easy fold pre. You are OOP and have 5-hi. This is not the time to call off 8% of your stack. Given you flopped an OESD and flush draw in a pot with an SPR of 1.8x and don't know what to do - just leave this hand out of your playbook for now (and likely forever). As played, jam. You either win a nice one or reload.

H2 I don't mind the 3! but I think you can size a little smaller like $40-45. As played I would be c-betting small here around $40. You're going to be betting this flop with AK a lot so you need to have value bets as well. We block top set and don't want to give a free card to KQ which has lots of equity against us. It also forces him to make uncomfortable decisions with 99/88 type hands. Sometimes he'll make calling mistakes and sometimes he'll make folding mistakes (when we have AK). Either way, forcing him to make marginal decisions is good for us. As played we can make a tight disciplined fold having put in just over 1/3 of effective stacks. But we shouldn't have been sizing this large pre and post which made for this uncomfortable spot with TPTK. You're either slightly ahead of KQ or way behind TT/QQ/KK.

H3 is kind of the same thing. I like the 3! and don't really mind if he folds or calls but I would shade down to $25. I kind of want him to call actually so we can win a bigger pot. As played just call the donk. We've got equity and position and can still turn more outs with a couple running straight outs. As played it's an easy call off.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:18 PM   #4
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

You're asking whats up with UTG+1's sizing to $25? Even after he got 5 calls? My guess he needs to raise even bigger at that table.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:40 PM   #5
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

H1 fold pre, as played obviously jam
H2 fold pre, as played 3bet to 40~, flops much too big, bet $35~. Probably calling it off and losing to tt
H3 obviously call
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:54 PM   #6
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

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H1 is just a super easy fold pre. You are OOP and have 5-hi. This is not the time to call off 8% of your stack. Given you flopped an OESD and flush draw in a pot with an SPR of 1.8x and don't know what to do - just leave this hand out of your playbook for now (and likely forever). As played, jam.
I definitely knew what to do, and did in most of these spots. I mostly posted to check and make sure I wasn't playing like a total idiot. I wanted to be sure that there wasn't something I was doing horribly bad.

As for the sizing of the 3bets, there was always dead money in the pot on account of the table being full of limpers, plus it was overly sticky. Villain in H2 was opening wide, I was pretty confident the 3bet would get him off his hand.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:59 PM   #7
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You're asking whats up with UTG+1's sizing to $25? Even after he got 5 calls? My guess he needs to raise even bigger at that table.
I was actually surprised there were so many callers, it was a fairly nitty table. I made the call thinking that not only was I getting 5:1 on my chips, but I was also definitely drawing super live because they had every card that was a ten or higher, lol.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:18 PM   #8
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

hand 1: Jam

hand 2: Very close call/fold try to soul read, leaning towards fold

hand 3: Call
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:46 PM   #9
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

H1:

I would fold preflop at most tables. If you're with a bunch of retards who are going to put in huge $$$ postflop with lol holdings, then it's probably more debatable. But if no one is spewing $$$ postflop, then we just have far too big of RIO issues.

As played, the SPR is < 2, so I'd probably open jam the flop. It will make it very difficult for anything other than non-monsters to call, and if anyone does manage a call, whatever, we should have decent equity.

As played (i.e. checking the flop), I'd jam. We probably don't have a lot of FE at this point, but we probably always have some. And on top of that we're doing fine against most hands (such as overpairs).


H2:

Preflop really depends on Villain's preflop raising range after 3 limpers and how aggro he is. I typically snap fold AJo to a raise.

Kinda weird flop; honestly not sure whether I would bet this in a 3bet pot or not. Bottom line afterwards is that we (who just 3bet preflop) got check/raised shoved on. Doubt he's doing this with KQ unless he is super aggro, so otherwise we're mainly just destroyed here, imo.


H3:

I might just flat preflop. It's a small raise, we're already on the Button so a call might isolate, plus our hand plays fine multiway too so if the blinds come along it isn't the end of the world. But I don't hate a 3bet with these smaller stacks against a small juicer looking raise if we're fine with committing on A high flops.

I'd jam over his lol donk given these relatively small remaining stacks. Often times this is a pair "looking to see where they are at" so we should have good FE to go with our hand equity. ETA: No one else wants to jam with our nut flush draw + overs against a weak lead in a relatively huge pot SPR wise? (possibly I'm getting confused on what action people are calling on)

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Old 10-10-2017, 04:01 PM   #10
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Re: A few HHs from yesterday's $1/$3 session that were a little tricky

H1: Another vote for fold pre. You want to play your smaller SCs heads-up if possible, and 3-way at worst if unavoidable. You start playing them 4-5+ ways and you're just asking for RIO issues like gobbledygeek said. You're looking for a 2% flop which is a bit much to ask for.

As played, yeah, jam the flop, that's the only way you can realize your equity.

H2: Too big of a 3bet. As played, I agree your flop bet is too big as well. You flopped a rainbow and your opponent's calling range after the pre-flop flat is very strong. You're exposing yourself too much. Bet smaller and against the right V you should be able to fold to a check-raise.

H3: After the flop, he gave you an amazing price to flat the bet and see a turn. Take advantage of that.
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