Just sat down so no reads. Would like some input on these hands.

Hand 1:

UTG raises to $15, two calls, I call in the BB with AJ. Flop comes J42, checks to last player who bets $20, everyone calls. Turn 8, I lead for $60, fold, fold, original bettor calls. River 4, I bet $80, he goes all-in for $205, I call.

Hand 2:

An orbit later there's a straddle, one limper, I'm in the BB with QJ and call, straddler makes it $15 more and we both call. Flop comes Q73, I check-call $35. Turn is a blank I check-call $55. River is another club and I check-call $80. (This is admittedly a bit stationy, and it could be I've been playing a bit too much heads-up limit, where you just never fold top pair.)

Hand 3:

UTG raises to $15, I call with 88, one of the blinds calls. Flop comes K87, blind checks, PFR bets $30, I raise to $90, fold, call. Turn 2, PFR just goes all-in for $300 effective, and I call.

hand 3 is pretty spewy

Do you put an unknown squarely on a flush and fold there?

Ugh. I apologize. I misread your hand. I thought you had 89.

Tough one but he's going to have a lot of flushes and a lot of AdKx.

Individually, these hands are fine, even though I raise top pair top kicker multi-way on the flop as BB to find out where I am at. So hand 1 I say put in a raise on the flop.

Hand 2, I'm not too sure I like since he barreled three streets and we are donating to A-A and K-K, though with him value betting the river, he likely doesn't have that or any one pair.

I think hand 2 could be a good read call, but if hands 1 and 2 happened back-to-back or near each other, I don't like this continuing line of getting married to top pair. We need to lay it down and let it go.

Hand #3 is pretty standard. We are either way ahead of drawing to our 10 outs. I'm not laying down 2nd set on the turn on that board.

Hand 1:

Fold pre-flop, especially without reads. If you do call, don't lead turn in this spot where someone led out and got called in two other spots on a very dry board. River is a snap-fold but you shouldn't lead anyway.

Hand 2:

River is a fold. Need more reads to determine flop/turn play.

Hand 3:

Again, need reads. Even what the guy looks like, his demeanor, or anything he's said will help. As a default play, I'd fold turn.

Hand 1 is a super trivial fold pre 4 ways OOP.

What?

We're getting like 5:1 pot odds.

I think folding preflop is out of the question in the first hand. When the guy last to act bets small and only gets called by the PFR and other guy, what hands are we worried about? I figured my hand was very likely good and lead the turn to try to extract maximum value from a worse jack that might check behind. I didn't really feel the turn / river bets were bad, just maybe the call. But it seemed I was getting very good odds and his hand didn't make any sense.

On hand two, I'd probably agree that I should have folded. I convinced myself it was likely enough he was a donk (his bet sizing was pretty fishy) with A-K or T-T or something to make the crying call.

On the 88 hand, I have a hard time seeing why he would just shove with a flush, but of course it's hard to see why he would shove other hands. I think I need to be good here at least like 36% of the time, but I really have no sense for how likely he is to push something like AK.

I'm glad you all are very good at playing AJo four ways from the worst position post flop against unknown villains in an open raised pot that was opened by UTG.

+1,000,000

I know it looks pretty to have an A with a face card and you wait orbits for a hand like this ... Then you have to fold to an UTG raise because we are

1) OOP
2) OOP
3) Raise comes from UTG ... escalating the strength of his hand.

Fold pre.

Is this table on the lower size of raises pf, and with most people not taking pot size relative to betting into consideration on any street?


First hand:

My goal in this hand is to cr whomever bets given how you played it. Once you just flat and everyone else comes along on this desert flop I'm likely to bet more on the turn, unless your plan is to induce a raise.

Your river bet is either a blocking bet, donkish, or super thin value in the eyes of the villain imo since you bet 80 into $260. Maybe the villain believes he is extracting value with KJ or 99's/TT. He could also think you are folding any hand without a 4. A 4 is perfectly in many villains range at this point, but given the pot size I doubt I'm every folding. There's a chance he is trying to look strong, but I say screw it. You are only calling $125 more into a pot of ~$547

Second hand:

I hate these spots. Villain shows up a lot with Axcc & Kxcc hands in this scenario. He could also have KQs QJs type hands, but it is more rare imo. His bet sizing is very fishy. It's either indicative of crying calls, or bluffed thin value. This is also why I hate playing hands with no reads. The amount of people making super thing value bets/value bluffs in this spot isn't very high. It leads me to want to call more when new to a table, depending on the player's actions and vibe. Realistically I think this is a fold.


Third hand:

Get it in. Again I see him showing up with a lot of Axdd hands, some quite marginal. He could also have 78, and AdKx, oesd scs, & TdTx-QdQx hands imo. Rarely does he show up with KK, and I like to gamble with the nut trips (imo) versus a potential flush/draw in this scenario. 7d7 is also in his range, which would suck some....but at least we are ahead currently.