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Originally Posted by bulls_horn
Yet another example why I think 3-betting AK pre in a cash game is just spew. You've bloated the pot and are now all but commited to a c-bet with two overs and a mighty gutshot (ooo! I almost forgot the all-powerful BDNFD).
As played, I think your only chance to win is to bet closer to psb otf and barrel the turn (repping QQ/KK). Of course, this opponent will probably just call you down with KJ or whatever broadways she likely has (broadways that likely hit, unlike your broadways). Betting less otf as you suggest is just burning money, for the same reasons you already listed that your cbet was ineffective.
i disagree with this. The 3bet preflop set up nice stack sizes to get it in with top pair on the flop/turn. As played you missed the flop against a total spazzy lagfish. I think I give up normally in the spot on the flop. As played you have a tough decision. Whats her range on the river? Im going to assume she is folding her complete garbage but continuing with roughly 40 percent of her range preflop. Lets say her flop calling range is AJ, KJ, QJ, JT, J9, J8, J7, AT, KT, QT, T9, T8, T7, A3, K3s, 34s, 35s. AK, AQ, KQ, K9, Q9, 98, 97, 78. Seems about right, calling with any pair or any gutshot or up and down. She could still have any one of these hands on the river given the action so you are ahead of- all draws that dont include an ace ( 94 combos)
you are behind all jacks tens and 3s ( Jacks- 84 combos Tens- 54 combos
threes- 14 combos) and chopping with AK and AQ (20 combos) Based on pot odds you need to be good 35 percent of the time here. Ignoring the chop pots, based on ranges you are good 40 percent here. I call river.
My mistake I missed the 3 combos. Its 36 percent and now pretty close. If she is ever just floating the flop and calling with like 76 or random hands then bluffing the river, its a call.