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07-08-2017 , 08:00 PM

bachegabrielsen

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 265

Hero UTG 160 bbs
Villain 1 dealer 200bbs
Villain 2 big blind 170bbs

Villain 1 is known reg capable of making moves
Villain 2 is super fish and drunk
Game is no very wild but most are drinking and there has been lots of play between hero and villain 1 in previous pots. Also most are drinking, not hero.

Hero raises to 6xbb
Villain (1) 3bet 27.5bb
Villain (2) calls 27.5bb
Hero 4-bet 80bb
Villain (1) folds
Villain (2) calls 80bb

Flop 10♠️ - A♠️ - 2♣️ (188bb)

Villain 2 bets 30bb
Hero shoves 80bb
Villain 2 calls 80bb

Turn 6♥️ (348bb)

River 6♦️

Villain 2 shows A♦️ - 10♦️
Hero shows Q♣️ - Q♠️

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07-08-2017 , 08:39 PM

JB Clark

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Sigh

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07-08-2017 , 08:41 PM

Buster65

The Situation

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,240

Yeah, you can save yourself the 80 bb here. If V1 had called and V2 folds pre, you can GII with V1.

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07-09-2017 , 01:25 AM

ChrisV

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Originally Posted by Buster65

Yeah, you can save yourself the 80 bb here. If V1 had called and V2 folds pre, you can GII with V1.

You are pretty clearly resulting here imo. Even vs villain's actual hand, our equity in the pot is 50 BB. I'm not folding in a 218 BB pot vs a "super fish and drunk" in an effort to save myself a maximum of 30 BB.

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07-09-2017 , 03:03 AM

Breadfish666

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Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 251

Try not to post results OP.

Tough spot, you're pretty much pot committed with the SPR being so low even if their is an ace on the board.

Discounting the drunk donk bet.

I prob jam it in on the flop here too.

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07-09-2017 , 04:09 AM

Minatorr

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I would just flat this pre when you make a huge 6x raise UTG and dealer basically 4.5x'es your raise. This isn't really a 4b for value, it's more of a raise to isolate the drunk guy. Which isn't exactly a good thing because based on your raise sizing and given it's UTG, I don't expect the BTN to be light here often at all and you're just isolating yourself vs his nutted hands.

Meh AP flop is just a jam. Sorry you lost.

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07-09-2017 , 05:29 AM

Buster65

The Situation

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Meh, whatever, a drunk fish is donking an A 99.9% of the time here. You don't have nearly the odds to draw to a Q.

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07-09-2017 , 05:39 AM

cicakman

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Just rip pre the first time

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07-09-2017 , 06:06 AM

bachegabrielsen

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 265

Thanks for all the replies!

First preflop: Should i just smoothcall the raise and set mine? or make the 4-bet smaller/bigger?

The reason for making it 6x is because there is alot of calling in this game preflop and i dont want to play this hand 4-5 ways oop.

Flop: The fold sucks, but i guess it is the right decision? He doesnt donk a pair of tens, JJ, flush draw, KQ etc?

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