1/3 NLH

Hero- 20s WG who just sat down at table about an orbit and a half ago. likely has very LAG image as has opened 4 or 5 hands and has won them all by cbetting flop (and once firing 2nd barrel on turn). this was mostly due to good cards as I'd normally wait to develop a better read on table/ villains before opening it up like this. has not gone to showdown. stack ~380

Villain 1- unknown 40s middle eastern who has limp/ limp-called a raise ~40-50% of hands. stack ~140

Villain 2- unknown 70 year old vet. talking a lot. has limped ~30% of hands.

The hand:

5 limps to hero in bb w/ AQo (no spade). raise to 18, V2 calls in EP and V1 calls in MP.

Flop ($58) T22

Hero bets 35, V1 folds, V2 calls.

Turn ($128) Q

Hero checks, V2 shoves for 81

Hero?

Why did you check the turn? I think you have to get it in for value after cbetting that flop.

at the time, my thought was if that if I bet, i'm value-targeting a T and it'll be hard for V to call with 3 spades and an over card. i thought i could check here and go for value on non-spade rivers, or possibly even induce a spazzy shove. not sure if i like this check, though

If all the limpers are short here like V1/V2, or if any of the deeper guys are really ABC postflop and won't be making our life difficult, I'm cool with raising preflop (whereas at deeper tables with non ABC players I often would just check here). After 5 limpers I'm probably raising more to have a better chance at narrowing the field (and if I take it down preflop, not a horrendous result).

Both these guys look to be short and just got in 13% of their stack preflop, so I'm looking to stack off easily postflop if I hit TP.

I might just check/fold this flop. No real cards to rep, and no one ever folds a pair on this board, and any bet will only leave them with a <PSB for the turn (i.e. I'm not convinced they are ever folding at this point). If they're straightforward, they'll probably let us know exactly where they are at, and we can perhaps bet the turn if flop checks thru and a blank comes.

As played, I think I just shove the turn myself. I don't think any pair folds the flop, so even though this is a scary turn for them, they only have 2/3 PSB left so they might call it off anyways / would suck to give free card to four-to-a-flush. In these spots where I raise preflop to commit with TP and then back into TP on the turn, even on bad cards, I think we have to continue with that commitment plan.

GimoG

If that's the case (and it's not a horrendous plan against aggro opponents, although it's debatable whether even aggro opponents will think a 2/3 PSB is enough to get us off what looks like could easily be a big pair of some sort), then your plan worked perfectly, so snap call.

GcluelessNLnoobG

cool, thanks for the responses. I agree making it a little more may be better, but i wouldn't go much more than like 23. table standard was 11-13 and I was pretty confident 18 would at least get some players out of the way.

and yea I'm not sure if I like my c-bet. at the time my thinking was that with this board texture it was kind of mandatory. no 2's in V2's range (except 22) and probably not many T's, although V1's range is way wider and def does have some 2's and T's. both V's also have small-med pocket pairs as well, but I think its hard for V2 to call a bet with 33-99 with V1 to act behind him. felt like I could rep an overpair and if called by V2 (who had about 250 to start hand, sorry i forgot to mention) I could barrel a lot of cards on the turn. if called by V1 i'm check folding all turns that don't improve my hand

I don't mind the way you played it. I would have gone more pre, though. I don't mind the C-bet too much, but I probably would have checked. As played, I really want to call, but what's he calling flop and shoving turn with that we beat? Of course, we did check turn. I would probably end up calling at table just because of how the hand was played, but 70-year-old vets are rarely bluffing here.

oh **** i messed up lol. V1 was the one who shoved, which I think makes it an easier call

as played, fold. I can't see what value hands he's shoving that you beat. You only really beat a bluff here and I can't see a bluff range here either. What could he overcall flop with?

But I think you should have bet bigger pre. With 5 limps and 2 blinds, that's $21 already. You're OOP also. Raise to $24+.

Flop, check/fold.

Much easier call vs. V1 given how the hand was played.