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11-13-2018 , 08:07 PM

Nikolaishvets

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 12

2/5 effective stacks $600

Villain is very loose aggressive pre flop raising close to 50% of hands, plays aggressive but straightforward post flop, haven't seen him get OOL.

Hero's image is tight aggressive, maybe seen as a little on tilt after losing a big pot a few hands prior however I mucked my hand and haven't gone to any other notable showdowns. OTTH.

Folds to villain in MP who raises to $25
Folds to hero on button who 3 bets to $80 with A

Folds to villain who calls

Flop 2

($165)
Villain checks
Hero bets $90
Villain calls

Turn T

($345)
Villain checks
Hero checks

River A

($345)
Villain jams for $430
Hero?

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11-13-2018 , 09:42 PM

SnapCall95

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Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 37

Gross.

But we beat a fair amount of his 3b calling range.. 77,99,JJ,QQ, KQs, KQo +maybe more? (hes aggro).

We lose to 10s, 88, A10o, a10s, AKo and AKs + a few more ..

I havnt run the numbers but im guessing you have to call some % of the time. i think this guy fits the bill for a guy you want to look up. Im calling.

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11-13-2018 , 09:46 PM

johnnyBuz

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Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 7,563

Ez fold

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11-13-2018 , 10:29 PM

Playbig2000

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ez fold against someone who never gets "out of line".

I would cbet smaller since you should expect he's calling with a lot of his range otf. The turn check was fine but when he open jams the river I can easily fold since he's not likely flatting pre with <AJ (and AK is knowingly in our range).

I would go smaller otf (since he's calling with a lot of his range) and 3x pre is fine otb but that's just nit picking.

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Originally Posted by SnapCall95

We lose to 10s, 88, A10o, a10s,

He's not going to be jamming with these since we also have aces in our range so I think it's a min. AK.

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11-13-2018 , 11:53 PM

Hhawkk

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Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 35

with the river bringing an ace, you have a lot more Aces in your preflop 3bet range, and despite this, he still jams into you. What is he calling you with on the flop that he is turning into a bluff once the ace comes? Once you check back the flop, your hand is more or less face up AK, AQ, low PPs like 99s, 66s, 77s. I think he's polarized with Ax that just made 2 pair or a slow played set.

if your read is that he's straight post flop, what value hands are you beating?

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11-14-2018 , 01:43 AM

ChrisV

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Against this sort of player typically checking back this flop with AQ/AK, don't think cbetting is criminal or anything though.

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11-14-2018 , 01:50 AM

PFunkaliscious

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 3,061

go bigger on the flop. you are repping TT+. make it 125.

on the river, that A hits your range harder than it hits his range, so you should be folding most of the time unless you have some strong live tells.

I would probably call out of curiosity to see what piece of cheese he was playing in a 3bet pot OOP.

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11-14-2018 , 05:24 PM

Minatorr

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5,235

Pretty easy fold, A hits your range pretty hard and he is still overbet jamming. Generally when a card is good for your range and your opponent is going ballistic he usually has it. This is just an awful spot to bluff bc you have a bunch of AK here and i dont think he's trying to get you to fold that.

flop is good imo and turn check is fine.

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11-14-2018 , 09:22 PM

DumbosTrunk

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Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 7,320

When you cbet and check turn your hand is face up and the ace smacks your hand as played. Plus he called flop so he had some piece of it. He still jams. Fold. V probably has A4 or 35o, something like that.

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11-14-2018 , 10:56 PM

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Koss

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I'm betting this flop smaller or checking it. Against a more stationy player I go for the small 3-bet because they can call with a lot worse. Against a bad LAG I might check it back and look to bluff catch. But when you bet > 1/2 pot you are going to flush out a lot of his garbage that whiffed.

I need a read that someone is going to take this line as bluff before I'm willing to call down. You just don't see people take this line with worse hands very often. It sucks, but I'd have to fold it. If he shows a bluff, whatever.

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11-14-2018 , 11:41 PM

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hart

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Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 46

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

He's not going to be jamming with these since we also have aces in our range so I think it's a min. AK.

Agreed. 88,TT certainly in his 3b calling range, and probably ATs. We lose to those and AK. If his pf calling range pre is fairly wide AP then his river shove feels like pure value.

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