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Extracting max value from hands #2 Extracting max value from hands #2

04-24-2014 , 11:33 AM
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$150 live bounty tournament, 50-100 level, a stage where it's deep enough to still play like cash. Actually pretty deep. Details are a bit fuzzy on this one.

Hero (~6000). I have played a couple of hands, but nothing that pops out.

Villain. (~8000) Loose, running something like 48/12. Somewhat thinking post flop.

Hero dealt JT MP1

Action:

Hero raises 300
MP3 (Villain) calls 300
B calls 300
BB calls 300

Flop (1200) K97

Hero checks
Mp3 bets 1000
B folds
BB folds
Hero calls 1000

Turn (3200) Q

Hero checks
Mp3 bets 1600
Hero reraises all in
MP3 folds

Observations. Villain didn't give me odds to call on the flop, but having read the thread on implied odds, I thought the combination of a disguised double belly buster and villain's aggression allowed me to call.

On turn, I shove all in, partly because I afraid of flush coming, but mostly because I felt that there could be a ton of scare cards that would kill my action on the river.

I guess I could have checked called on the turn and check shove on the river, but I am thinking I could have mini bet on the turn to induce a raise on the turn. What other people think?Hand #2. $150 bounty tournament, 50-100 level, a stage where it's deep enough to still play like cash. Actually pretty deep. Details are a bit fuzzy on this one.

Hero (~6000). I have played a couple of hands, but nothing that pops out.

Villain. (~8000) Loose, running something like 48/12. Somewhat thinking post flop.

Hero dealt JT MP1

Action:

Hero raises 300
MP3 (Villain) calls 300
B calls 300
BB calls 300

Flop (1200) K97

Hero checks
Mp3 bets 1000
B folds
BB folds
Hero calls 1000

Turn (3200) Q

Hero checks
Mp3 bets 1600
Hero reraises all in
MP3 folds

Observations. Villain didn't give me odds to call on the flop, but having read the thread on implied odds, I thought the combination of a disguised double belly buster and villain's aggression allowed me to call.

On turn, I shove all in, partly because I afraid of flush coming, but mostly because I felt that there could be a ton of scare cards that would kill my action on the river.

I guess I could have checked called on the turn and check shove on the river, but I am thinking I could have mini bet on the turn to induce a raise on the turn. What other people think?
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04-25-2014 , 09:53 AM
Bump. I know it's a live tournament hand, but this is essentially a cash hand. Default stack size is 80 bb deep here and effective stacks are 60 bbs.
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04-25-2014 , 02:09 PM
I would bet the flop. As the PFR and being double-gutted to the nuts both ways, I'd like to keep the initiative.

As played, I think the turn check/shove is fine. At that stack depth it's only slightly bigger than a PSB.

I know it sucks when they fold, but I never feel like I played the hand bad if I'm all in with the nuts.
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