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is this a +ev game for me? is this a +ev game for me?

09-11-2019 , 01:14 PM
This all sounds super sketchy. What could possibly go wrong?!
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09-11-2019 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ($)
lol you guys are really overthinking this, second last post is some super paranoid guy

last post lol at "disclosure".

This place is full of degen recs who barely understand the concept of rake, I really feel this deal is legit, I've been to dozens of backroom games and know all the guys, they're raking in so much money they're not gonna think up some elaborate scam to screw over some low stakes grinder. I'm not sure about the whole 50%/25% thing but its def worth them to pay someone like me a bit extra just to keep their games running, its +ev. I regularly get deals of like $10-20/hour just to support different games.
Actually if you are as good as you say you are, its terrible for them to keep you in the games. You're gonna clean out the fish and when they stop coming back there will be no more games. The guy would be better off giving the fish some rakeback to keep them from going broke too fast.
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09-11-2019 , 04:29 PM
don't usually comment on random ass posts and significantly drunk atm but if that's the deal you getting take it while it lasts.

didnt really read through the whole thing exactly on percentages etc but the reason you posted is obviously something concerns you about it. it can be either if you thinking you getting a good deal or any further "adjustments" in the game.

the thing is. if i was running a game full of whales, i would prefer to keep it that way without any "house players" etc. that way you can sustain it in the most enjoyable nonchalant way

if it stays the way it is, just grind it while it lasts and keep them entertained while making some juice. If any changes, reevaluate and **** off most likely
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09-12-2019 , 12:09 AM
yeah, it's a real deal, your primary concern should be the likable and talkative guy at the table

leave your sunglasses, headphones and hoodie at home - this is good advice for any game though
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09-12-2019 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RJT
What you were trying to say and what you said are different. I gather now what you meant to say overall. That’s fine.

I don’t want to get into a big discussion about this and derail the thread. But you contribute to LLSNL, so I’ll explain to you, so you know:

You said “When do you settle? Daily? If so he’s either an idiot or planning to scam you somehow.”

Stated another way:

Premise: You settle daily.
Conclusion: He’s and idiot or it’s a scam.

That is not a logical statement. Even if you add (the red herrings of) the reasons you stated why it might be a scam, it wouldn’t be logical statement.

Premise: You settle daily.
Argument: It looks too good to be true. The deal incentives abnormal play and is vulnerable to collusion.
Conclusion: He’s an idiot or it’s a scam.

Those are arguments for it to be a scam, sure. They are just not arguments that if you settle daily one can conclude it’s a scam.

P.s. I know your question “Is that different from what I said.” Refers to the other statements you and I wrote. I didn’t want to get into explaining that too but I can. The OP isn’t even interested in our comments.
Perhaps my argument has not been argued very well to this point. I don’t really care to logically deconstruct arguments in such an informal setting, so let me reiterate as simply and clearly as I can.

The deal as it is stated and settling daily is not profitable for the host to offer OP. Now, there are so many variables that this isn’t really provable either way, but this is the opinion I hold.

If I am correct, then the host is either not acting in his own best interest or he doesn’t intend to honor the deal in a fair game.

If OP trusts this guy he absolutely should take the deal, but please proceed with skepticism.
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