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03-23-2015 , 07:18 AM
There is another hand from yesterday's session which I believed I played badly.

Game is 1/2, effective stacks is 220

My image is described on this thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post46447119

and on the particular hand I am perceived as a bluffer and villain is after me.

I am getting dealt K♣ K♠ in MP and I raise it to 15 after one limper.
I am getting called by villain on BTN with 220 effective stacks. (I have around 600). Also limper calls (stack: 150)
Pot: 48
Flop comes 4♣ 6♣ 2♠

I CB to 30, villain calls limper folds
Pot: 108
Turn is the 8♣ and I am pretty sure I am beat somehow. I exclude AKs as I have both black kings but all sets are in play and suited connectors or suited gappers that could have called the flop are either a straight or two pair now. BUT I am engaged with KK right now and I dont want to let them go yet :-). So I check the turn to see vilain's action and to avoid getting check raised with the intention to call and play 5th street chicken.
So villain bets 60 and I tank call getting ready to split from my beloved Kings and not marry them.

Pot is 228 and villain has 115 behind
River is a K♥ for a rivered set and I am first to act. Now I beat everything but a straight which I think would have bet a little bit more on the turn. Also I dont believe I will be able to fold a set of KK here for a half pot sized bet.
So I finalise my marriage with the KK and lead for 75 to look like AKs for a flush draw that turned to top pair and villain snap shoves for his remaining chips. I call.

Thoughts?
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03-23-2015 , 08:14 AM
looks like you got lucky vv set or 2pr or unlucky vv str

i'd just b/f turn and b/f river on a clean runout.

it's possible to exploit any image - tight, bluffy, LAG - but i'd consider a bluffy image to be more difficult to exploit than a tight image or one built around strong multi-street value betting. why? because you miss flops more often than you hit.
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03-23-2015 , 12:49 PM
Bet closer to pot on the flop with a 2suited connected board.

Turn c/c is good.

River bet $75 is oddly sized, V has $115 left and pot is $228, River is rather trivial anyhow we are never folding so GII or check call V's shove.
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03-24-2015 , 04:02 AM
Since I made it to the river I wanted to look like AKs that missed the flush draw s b d turned TPTK. But what about the turn c/c . Anybody thinks is a fold ?
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03-24-2015 , 04:03 AM
check/fold I mean
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03-24-2015 , 04:05 AM
Cant fold turn as played unless V is a nit/omc.

Vs an unknown I like a B/f
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03-24-2015 , 10:13 AM
As others have said, b/f the turn. You have a bluffs image, you'll get looked up by middle pairs almost every time. C/c narrows your range to overpairs and flush draws. As played the river should be checked 100%. You can't be worried about a check back because his entire check back range is folding to your bet. No villain is checking back a set or two pair here. Let him take a stab at it with a worse hand or a missed draw bluff. If he checks back and shows A-8 suited be satisfied that he would have folded that to your tepid A-K anyway.
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03-24-2015 , 11:34 AM
am i missing something? doesnt the board read:
462 [8] [K]?

but you say you're only behind straights?
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03-24-2015 , 11:52 AM
Flushes have you beat. Bet/fold turn. Jam river. Don't want him to check back hands he will call with. Can't count on him to bluff. Plus he doesn't have many bluffs in his range.
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03-24-2015 , 11:54 AM
You didn't utilize your image at all on turn. Bet/folding does that. As we will get called by worse often
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