Saw what i thought was an interesting hand yesterday and have been thinking about whether I would of played hand differently from hero.

Hero just sat down, maybe 5 hands in, so no real reads on opponents.

1/2
V1(250) ep raises to 11
V2(450) button calls
Hero(300) in BB calls with 1010

Flop(30) 982
Hero checks
V1 checks
V2 checks

Turn(30) 9
Hero bets 22
V1 raises to 75
V2 folds
Hero calls

River(224) 5
hero checks
V1 raises 125
hero ?? what are your thoughts on how hero played hand on all streets?

V1's line makes no sense. any hand that a 9 OTT helps, he probably is cbetting OTF because of the coordination of the board. we have way more 9s in our range than he does and he's raising us OTT. he's not really representing that much. flop and turn are fine, i'd probably call river just because the line is so weird.

maybe he shows up with 88/98/JJ+ here sometimes, but i think you'll see a descent amount of random hands that just make you scratch your head trying to figure out what V was thinking.

Do we have any relevant reads on V2? I'm trying to make sense of V1's line, and the only way I can do so is if he's trying something nonstandard on the flop in an attempt to exploit V2.

On the flop, V1 should be betting all overpairs and sets. That's a wet board that smashes everyone else's range. If V1 had 109, he should be betting the flop as well.

If V2 constantly stabs at orphan pots, then maybe V1 flopped big and is hoping to abuse V2 with a check-raise. Otherwise, I have to believe V1 raised with big cards and whiffed.

V1s turn raise makes zero sense to me. If he flopped a set, he should be calling now that he's boated up, hoping to keep V2 around. He shouldn't have a 9 in his range, given how the flop action went. So he's repping a poorly-played overpair. But he could just as easily be spazzing with overcards. I don't think I can find a fold here, and I probably just call to keep his spazz range in play.

On the river, the only thing that got there was 67. I guess that's in villain's range, but I'm still tempted to look him up here.

One question though: you say villain started the hand with 250. He has put in $211 (11+75+125). Is that count right, did he really leave himself $39 behind? If so, that's a bet-sizing tell, but I'm curious how others interpret it.

In short, villain's line is really fishy, and a ton of draws bricked out on the river. I call.

This is so dependent on the villian's tendencies that it's hard to say. In a 1/2 vacuum methinks it's a fold on the turn.

sorry, sierradave good catch. I reversed the villains stacks, V1 is 450, V2 is 250. After river bet V1 left himself with about $200 behind. Thanks for the analysis, doesn't seem to change belief that V1's line is fishy.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that has me leaning ever-so-slightly more towards a call.

What is Villain 1's early position raising range? He may be raising you on the turn just to see if you are FOS. He would probably expect a 9 to shove on him so the fact that you just called makes him think he can push you off your hand on the river.

I agree with posters that say he would definitely bet the flop with an overpair on this board. I don't think a 9 is in most early position raiser's opening range, but even if he had a 9, he would most certainly bet the flop. Would he ever open with 76 of clubs?

Logically, his range on the river is polarized to nuts or nothing. If he has AA here he is super bad but it's possible if he's the type to never give you credit for trips.

It's never a big mistake to just fold the turn without reads. Some LLSNL players are just really really bad. We don't need to beat them by making hero calls. Let this guy stack off when we hit our monster or let him bleed chips if he is opening UTG with hands like 76 suited.

Against unknown $1/2 players where I play, anything other than a fold on the turn is burning money. Plenty of people check this flop with sets or top two. I don´t think I´ve ever seen someone bluff raise the turn in this spot. V has trip nines at a minimum, probably a FH. I´m going with 88. You guys are projecting IMO.

I don't think I can fold here. Any higher pp or 9 should be betting flop, esp with him being pre flop raiser

He may have flopped the joint, though. Ah it's a tough spot

Without some read or history I'm folding the turn. I don't see how the logic justifies a call.

If he thinks you are FOS than he is enough of a thinking player to realize that his raise looks FOS too.

If he's an aggro bluffing fiend he'd be betting his air on the flop.

If all the other options are dismissed we are left with the most likely option: he's a bad 1/2 player who wets themselves when they flop a set and didn't bet flop because he was afraid everyone would fold.