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11-23-2019 , 07:15 PM
V1 is a 40 year old LAG guy who recently sat down.
V2 is a approx 60 who is a calling station with big cards but overfolds marginal pairs in an exploitable way.
$1/2NL
Eff Stack Size is $500
V1(UTG1) Raises to 10 preflop. This is pretty much the standard open for the game
V2 (MP3) Calls
Hero(Btn) with 3,4calls $10

3 ways to a flop
pot $30
A,J, 6

Checks to Hero who elects to bet to $22.

After thinking about it for a bit I think that it isn't smart to bet here.
- There isn't much chance I will get two folds here, pretty much any Jack, any low suited ace that called preflop from V2, middle pairs and better flush draws will call me. I don't exactly have many JJ or strong aces in my range, I pretty much just have flush draws here and a few jacks and even less aces in my range.
- If i'm not confident I will get folds 42% of the time I don't want to build a large pot here with a 4 high flush, not a great hand when we're 250bb deep.

So I think it's better to just check behind because you're in position and if you flop more equity like an open ended straight of a gut shot straight you can bet if it checks through or raise quite large if someone bets the 2,5 or 7 which is not likley to strengthen any of their ranges here.

I know this may be a boring/common/simple spot but any help on how to approach this situation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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11-23-2019 , 11:25 PM
Wait you have 34? Fold pf, this is way too loose.
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11-24-2019 , 07:39 AM
Yeah, fold pf. As played, a 4 high FD isn't anything to get excited about. If you mistyped and the "6" is actually a "5," adding a gut shot straight draw doesn't help it much.
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11-24-2019 , 08:41 AM
If youre really good post flop, this isnt the worst call preflop ever, especially pretty deep, but since you are unsure what to do here you should fold until you are more confidant in your post flop play.

Having said that, betting this flop is pretty much mandatory in this situation. You dont call preflop with hands like this just to slam the flop and win a big pot. That wont happen often enough.

Both villains have already checked. Rarely is anyone checking with an ace. Even more important is the fact that V2, who is the caller, checked AFTER the preflop raiser checked. If he had to act before the preflop raiser he could easily check the flop with an ace because everyone checks to the raiser. But if the preflop raiser has already checked and he checks also, he will almost never have an ace. He may be slow playing a monster once in a blue moon, but you cant worry about that yet.

If youre going to call preflop with hands like this last to act, you have to take advantage of your position when people look weak and bet here. Id bet this flop last to act most of the time even if I didnt have a draw but with a draw its a mandatory bet.

Your player descriptions make this a perfect spot to bet.
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