1/2 Cinci.

Table is awesome! Fish Galore.

Hero: 20s white guy. Busted twice! JJ then 10-10 vs. same Opponent.
10-10 hand: Fish (Calling station + Bluffing Station) raises pre, Hero in BB 3 bets, Fish 4 bets light, Hero Shoves, V calls. Spikes and Ace on the flop holding A2s. JJ: Hero Raises, Fish 3 bets, Hero 4 bets, Fish calls, Flops under cards, hero shoves, Fish calls with A10s, spikes A on turn... Come on!!!!!!!!
I'm playing TAG, but this table is so bluffy and fishy, I had to add some serious bluffs to my game. Showed one, so my image has to be confusing.


V1 (650): 20s White dude. Play LAG, Isoing fish hard with 3 bets/big raises over their limps. Stack is a roller coaster but is trending up.

V2 (400): 30s braided beard fish, in for 800, currently with 400. Main target of V1. Playing Fit Fold to much of the V1 Isoing tactics.

Hero (700): A9 I decide to make a move.

V2: MP V1: Mp+2 Hero: CO

OTTH:
V2 limps , V1 raises to 24 (Standard raise for buying limps/isoing for him)
Hero 3s to 60. V2 folds, V1 calls. Oops

Flop (~120) 7 8 2

V1 checks, Hero bets 80 (Can't slow down, He'll notice bet sizing), V1 calls.

Turn (~280): Jc
V1 Checks, Hero bets 180... (Hero starting to think he got himself into a mess here)

Thoughts?

Did you expect a LAG to fold when you 3b to only 2.5x? Do you think A9s is a good hand to 3b a LAG?

Hey OP, try to post relative positions preflop, ie- button or UTG helps to predict preflop ranges a little. Ie- were you button, was V1-2 UTG?

I actually like this play, stacks are deep and you have a great hand to play a big pot if you don't take it down pre. Remember that against fish your FE sky rockets when you 3! because at 1/2 that almost always screams QQ+, having said that I think a bet of 60 would have done the same job 80 would.

If he's calling the flop Chet out of position in a 3! Pot then he definitely has something, I'm assuming he's trapping JJ+ here, save the $20 on the flop and check back the turn, you still have some equity with a gut shot and possibly a live ace.

By being aggressive on the turn the only hand you push out is AK but your killed by the rest of his range and AK folds the flop to ur cbet a lot here. Pre and flop play was fine, but sometimes you just gotta shut down and try to get to show down without hanging yourself. As played check back turn and fold river to a bet. If checked to on river I think I'm checking back and praying for Him to come up short with KQ or diamond draw.

I typed up a long post, but my internet ate it.

Bottom line, I love your sizing, I think the turn bet is good, although it's a close decision, and I would probably bluff a non-D K or Q river and nothing else.

Really? I mean I kinda agree with that at a 2/5 game or above or on a read of s super solid player but I just feel like 1/2 fish are crying calling here all day with like TT+, if you have a player capable of realizing you have AA or KK then represented perfectly but this EXACT scenario is how 1/2 can be soooo profitable when you do have big pairs and 3! Value town people.

couple things.

1 - you already know these clowns don't fold. why are you playing into their hands? They are not going to think to themselves, "uh oh, last two times he had it, we better fold this time". That is not how it works. They are going to keep calling with all of those trash hands that sucked out on you and expect to get it in bad. Suprise for them! You are now playing their role and they are getting it in good!

2 - If you are going to bluff against these types, you have to sell it. Last two times you got sucked out on and now you are steaming at being sucked out on. So bet it like you are have the best hand and are steaming..

make your 3! pre to 90. If you just make it 60, they are not going to have any problem calling. again, on the flop, pot is 120, bet 105. Bomb away like you have aces and damn all to hell if you are going to get drawn out on again. 80 is like an invitation to come along.

No problem with bluffing, just do it when it has a very high chance of succeeding.

Ok so before relieving the result. Why am I getting **** about players not folding? This is the LAG dude who iso's fish I'm playing? Not to metion, the fish who folded played fit/fold. I took this spot to get him. Im not showing weakness. If I check turn (totally understandable) I lose all fold equity. Do you check turn with AA or KK? This guy calls light, hardcore. Im utilizing the image he has of me here. 10-10 or jj is = AA vs fish opponent to which i busted. Slowing down means forfeiting hand.

FWIW: posting slightly drunk and on tilt from 2 bad beats tonight... Starting to believe spex's karma post. Helping a homeless dude at the casino tonight to work on that.

How often do you think he has a hand better than TT here? More than 65% of the time?

Pf is a little small no? I'd go something like $70-$75.
Can you explain this?

V's range is likely a diamond draw, 99 or 1010. Its debatable if he would 4bet QQ's, but KK+ would definetely have 4bet pre. V could find a fold on the river to a large bet if a K hits and he is holding third pair to the board. Obviously will fold his missed draw. This is why a turn is a check back 100% of the time.

Your range is so heavily narrowed toward overpair or AK, but at this point in the hand the V's range is very wide open. A shrewd opponent could blow you off your hand with a turn check-raise, even if he only held diamonds, since he can rep a straight or a flopped set leaving hero in the uncomfortable position where he would have to make a huge call with an overpair and no redraw to a flush or straight.

V's range will be significantly narrowed once you see how he acts on the river. By checking the turn you maximize the value of having position by seeing how your opponent acts of 5 streets and it also allows you to take the opportunity to see a free card.

You have many good cards left in the deck to give you the chance to win the pot. 3 Ace outs and 4 gut shot outs to give you the likely best hand, as well as any diamond, K, or Q for bluff outs. That's potentially 24 good river cards for us to bet at if our opponent checks to us on the river.

He folded turn and showed AK.
Sounds like I got lucky