Mistake1-2 NL texas Holdem.

Villain 1 Donkey UTG. 20's white guy. Has bought in twice and has about $70 in front. Plays anything. Makes a lot of ridiculous calls.

Villain 2 UTG +1 Middle aged White Guy - seems like a bit of a calling station but too bad. Has shown the goods. Got very lucky catching trip jacks with Ace-Jack vs AA a few hands ago. Has 200 up front.

Hero is sitting in Middle Position with about 200 (the maximum buy in). Perceived image is tight but has got caught bluffing a few times. He was dealt 8h-7h and decided to call.

Villain 3 - Tight Player, older white guy. Has always shown the goods. Has about 300 in front.

Small blind folds. Big blind folds (couldn't say why).

Playing the hand

Pre-flop. ($9)

Villain 1 calls. Villain 2 calls Hero calls Villain 3 calls.

Flop:

10s 6h 4c (rainbow).

Villain 1 bets $2
Villain 2 calls.

hero says "what the heck" and goes for the gutshop because it's cheap and donkeys are involved. and calls.

Villain 3 calls.

Turn ($17)

Turn card is the 9 of hearts giving hero the nut straight and a shot at a flush or straight flush.

Villain 1 bets $2 again. Villain 2 calls.

Your move?

Pretty standard raise, $12-15, villains seem really weak so any more might let them off the hook. Bet 3/4 to full pot on any river.

I go $15.

Grunch from title alone: I usually ignore those silly bets, and just throw in a raise to whatever I was going to bet anyway.

Post grunch edit: Your image is not tight if you've been caught bluffing a few times. It is bluffy. The fact that you've played few hands is not that relevant to the Vs.

This is good news in this silly situation, as we have a better chance of getting paid off. Pot is $23 with your call, so go at least 15 more. I'd make it an even $20. The more we can squeeze in to the pot OTT, the bigger bet we can make OTR.

Make it $15 to $20. No reason to flat. We need money in that pot.

You actually have a double gutshot on the flop.

I’m tempted to go all in, but $35 or so should be better.

Raising to $15 seems too small.

+1

I'd make it 18$, just under 20...


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My Apologies..flop was 10 6 3 rainbow.

I raised to $18 everyone folded.

I thought this was stupid aggressive but I can see from responses it was probably correct.

Thanks

It's NL, not L - can't play for stacks if we just let people min bet.

Fish minbet like this to try and control the action. Rather than checking and letting someone else bet a "normal" amount, they think if they just come right out firing, even for the minimum, that it will somehow freeze the other players up and they get to see the next turn for their price. Vs a table full of fish this may in fact hold true, vs any competent player they are just giving great odds or lighting money on fire. You, as a living poker legend, will raise these bets strictly for value when you have it. Do not bluff in these spots, the fish intends to see the next card, he just doesnt want to pay more than $2 if he doesnt have to. If you make it $20 he'll relent and call anyway because he intends to see his hand through.

In your spot I'd be raising to no less than $20.