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08-27-2018 , 07:41 PM
Hero has played a few orbits and has about $500. He likes to think he has a "competent player" vibe although has done nothing spectacular at the table so far.

V1 is a youngish guy who has been mostly taggy pf yet a bit of a pow and prone to a bit of tilt. He has called down multiple streets on JT937r and lost to TT. He has also limp jammed KTs with $300ish and sucked out on AKo.

V2 and V3 are middle aged and seems slightly on the loose passive side.

Effective stacks are mine at about $500.

V1 raises to $20 in EP. V2 and V3 call in LP and SB calls. I look at JT and make maybe a slightly loose call in the BB? Probably fine I would guess.

Pot: $95
Flop is a nice looking AKQ

I check? V1 checks, V2 bets $20, V3 calls, SB folds.

I make it $135?
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08-27-2018 , 08:05 PM
Preflop is a rather loose but not terrible. The price is just OK but you are OOP.

Flop check is fine. Action after you check is about the worse possible sequence. The original raiser checks and the next guy makes a small probing bet. V2's bet is likely AX that doesn't make two pair and wants to see how other react. V3's call adds in some KJ/KT/QJ/QT and heart draws into his range in addition to the various weak AX. Plus there is a chance V1 has a gut shot draw or something else weak and will call for a small enough price.

With 2 opponents there are enough things you need to dodge that you can't let them fish for a chop or a flush cheaply. But your raise will push them off a lot of hands. Not much you can do about it. A little smaller, say $110/$120 is probably slightly better but it's a trivial optimization.
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08-27-2018 , 08:12 PM
Yup. Was going to write it all up, but JJJJ said it all, imo.
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08-27-2018 , 08:17 PM
I agree completely with QuadJ.
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08-27-2018 , 08:20 PM
In post evaluation I think I kinda like leading $50 on the flop. I feel like PFR basically never stabs at this flop, so we're not missing value on him c-betting. We're gonna get all his money if he has AK/AQ either way, and we might make more this way if he has AJ/AT than by checking to him?

Last edited by ImAllInNow; 08-27-2018 at 08:27 PM.
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08-28-2018 , 12:09 AM
Leading certainly isn't terrible but I think you're maybe resulting a little here. It's pretty likely that PFR flopped something and getting to checkraise the table is more important than what happens if PFR has specifically AJ or AT.
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08-28-2018 , 01:15 AM
Pre is way too loose, even QJo/KJo/KQo are folds with this type of action 5-way oop post.

Ap raise flop
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08-28-2018 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Pre is way too loose, even QJo/KJo/KQo are folds with this type of action 5-way oop post.

Ap raise flop
5 way with broadways is too loose?
looking to learn what range are you rocking here?
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08-28-2018 , 08:23 AM
As others have said, folding pre to an EP raise.

I think a flop C/R > leading since this texture should smack the PFR EP range. Holding the Jh also blocks some FD. I'd go $95.
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08-28-2018 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
Hero has played a few orbits and has about $500. He likes to think he has a "competent player" vibe although has done nothing spectacular at the table so far.

V1 is a youngish guy who has been mostly taggy pf yet a bit of a pow and prone to a bit of tilt. He has called down multiple streets on JT937r and lost to TT. He has also limp jammed KTs with $300ish and sucked out on AKo.

V2 and V3 are middle aged and seems slightly on the loose passive side.

Effective stacks are mine at about $500.

V1 raises to $20 in EP. V2 and V3 call in LP and SB calls. I look at JT and make maybe a slightly loose call in the BB? Probably fine I would guess.

Pot: $95
Flop is a nice looking AKQ

I check? V1 checks, V2 bets $20, V3 calls, SB folds.

I make it $135?
Preflop: meh. I think fold is best. This isn't a disaster though.

I'd make it 165 and jam any non A/K turn. If anyone continues here vs a xr, they're gonna have a strong hand that's probably just going to call off on the turn anyway. Might as well make it expensive.

Edit: why so much love for 115 here? What would EP continue with for 95 more that he won't continue with for 145 more? He either has AQ or better or he doesn't here.
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