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Old 05-07-2013, 03:58 PM   #26
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Re: Do you call if you are deep and put villian on a huge draw?

dgiharris your range for villain is ridiculous, its like u just kept adding hands until you came up with an equity to justify calling. he isn't gonna make it 500 from 85 with qt here. I don't think he is likely to do it with 2pair+ either, that's why I said I had him pegged squarely on a huge draw. I wasn't thinking of kqcc or aqcc at the time but I shouldve
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:28 PM   #27
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Re: Do you call if you are deep and put villian on a huge draw?

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I agree we shouldn't auto lay down over pairs to this guy, but on this texture he will have a lot of semi bluffs with good equity. If he's this spewy, why am I going to flip for over 200bbs here? Not saying its bad to get it in against that range, but high variance. It seems a little thin for me.
This is why we FLAT him on the flop, peel off a non-club turn, and then get our money in as a 75% - 80% favorite

I'm always willing to stack off for 200bb+ as a 75%+ favorite. Everyday of the week and twice on Sundays...

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dgiharris your range for villain is ridiculous, its like u just kept adding hands until you came up with an equity to justify calling. he isn't gonna make it 500 from 85 with qt here. I don't think he is likely to do it with 2pair+ either, that's why I said I had him pegged squarely on a huge draw. I wasn't thinking of kqcc or aqcc at the time but I shouldve
How often are you folding to this villain when he shoves over the top of you for big money?

I submit if you "ONLY" call this villain for 100bb+ stacks with sets or top two pair hands that he is shoving on you a lot wider than you think (if he is at all a thinking player).

My range may be a little wide for villain, but I don't think overly so. There are going to be a lot more Flush draws in his range than just T9cc and KTcc. Axs, Kxs, Qxs flush draws are all in his range and those hands are easily capable of raising you on the flop.

If we know or strongly suspect that flush draws are the majority of this villain's range. How on Earth aren't we just flatting the flop and peeling off a non-club turn? that is what I really don't understand.

We flat flop and if a club hits on turn, fine we fold. But if it doesn't then we are 75% favorite with one card to come. How is that not a great spot to be in?

I'm just never folding an overpair vs this player in this spot. This is a simple flat on flop and reevaluate on turn.

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