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Did I play too tight? Did I play too tight?

09-21-2019 , 05:45 AM
I'm used to playing 2NL 6-max, I play 20/18/7 there.
I'm also used to playing live €20 turbo tournaments and I'm doing really good in them so far.
I've played some cash games live, but not too much.

Yesterday I was playing this 1/1 game.
One guy was just insanely wasted and was just splashing ships around, probably around 80/10 or something.
The rest of the table was way more aggressive but also playing way too many hands, I'd say the average was around 50/30/1

Especially one guy in front of me was constantly opening and seemed to open every time I had a playable hand.
But he opened to €10-15, which removed all the play-ability of my medium holdings.

Now my problem is that I don't have a bankroll for these games.
So I sat down with the last €100 I could miss with no option to add-on or rebuy.
I wasn't afraid of losing it, I just didn't have any more to play with after that.

I basically folded for 3 hours, playing maybe 2 or 3 hands.
We had 8 players for most of the night.

How do you adjust to these type of games?
I opened 2 or 3 hand during the first hours, but then didn't hit anything and lost half my stack.

After that I was stuck in a game with €60 that was constantly opening to €10 and getting 2-4 callers.

How does this affect my playing ranges?

I once called a €6 raise pre with A2s and just felt like an idiot afterwards for putting in 10% of my stack with a marginal hand.

Do we just wait for high cards in these games and the bomb the pot?
Like KTs, KJo+, TT+ from LP
AJ+, KQ, JJ+ from EP?

Like is playing a 5-10% range fine in these games?
People did notice I was playing insanely tight, but I just wasn't getting anything to play with either, especially considering the opening sizes and my stack.


The worst spot was folding T9s on the BTN with a €60 stack after someone had opened to €11.
This is a standard fold right?


I don't think anyone in that game would've been capable of adjusting to my really tight ranges.
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09-21-2019 , 07:02 AM
Dont play in games you cant keep the max on the table. Reason being there is so much value in these loose games that you want to have as many BBs on the table as you can. That being said, if you cant then you just cant lol

If the standard open is 10 and you have 60 then your range should be something like 99+,AJs+,AQo+ and that's about it. And you jam everytime! No calling and letting them hit their whatever the fock they got.

My advice is to wait until you have atleast 10 buyins. So 1000, then bring 2.5 buyins per session and keep your stack topped off. ( if your in for 100 and lose 40 in a pot, top off before the next hand is dealt) also when you get chips get all the money you brought in chips. If its 250 then get 250, dont keep cash because you'll be more likely to sit with a 40 stack and wait to lose it before rebuying. ( that's no bueno)

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09-21-2019 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by thegibson
My advice is to wait until you have atleast 10 buyins.
Thanks for the advice, makes sense.

Would suck though, that would literally mean I can't play for half a year ...

I don't really see an issue with being short-stacked in these games, I just wait for a hand and shove, still get called (happened 2x)
Being short can actually be a great advantage in these games. At least as far as my poker knowledge goes?

Could I call 10BB with a 100BB stack with T9s in position against 4 players? Probably not?
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09-21-2019 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
Thanks for the advice, makes sense.

Would suck though, that would literally mean I can't play for half a year ...

I don't really see an issue with being short-stacked in these games, I just wait for a hand and shove, still get called (happened 2x)
Being short can actually be a great advantage in these games. At least as far as my poker knowledge goes?

Could I call 10BB with a 100BB stack with T9s in position against 4 players? Probably not?
You have more than a hundred already, your 10% of the way there.

Shortatacking has 0 advantages. Dont kid yourself, if you think your better than the other players (which you should or why play?) Then you should make every attempt possible to play as deep as possible. Deeper=skill prevails, less variance...shortstack=luck dependent, higher variance..

No you shouldn't call with T9s..with 60bbs or 100bbs. But 100bbs you can add a call button instead of jam/fold

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09-21-2019 , 08:25 AM
If you have a short stack, one buy in and are at a loose aggro table then play really tight until you can move in preflop. You should probably be looking for something around a 5% range depending on position and number of limpers.

This is not a particularly profitable strategy. Good short stack play involves having multiple buy ins so you can shove some slightly +EV situations and take advantage of FE. There is a sense where having a short stack is an advantage in that you will be all in for +EV to slightly -EV a lot. The problem is that you are all in a lot and if unlucky can go through a lot of buy ins fast.

If you are better and more disciplined then the other players at the table then a single deep buy in and avoiding high variance situations is more profitable. If your used to tournament play the highly disciplined part is likely to be a problem though. In a tournament you have to push harder and bluff more and hope things break your way, shifting gears to hit nitty cash game play is hard.
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