This is 1/3 NL Texas Holdem. I am sitting with around $320 in front of me in the cutoff. I am dealt KdKh. There is a $7 straddle on the dealer button. About 6 people call the straddle then I raise to $22 preflop and get 4 callers. The flop is Qd7d10c
Action is checked around to me and I bet $40. One person calls. The pot is now around $180. The turn is a 4d.
(The board now looks) —> Qd7d10c 4d
Player checks to me and I have around $150 left and bet out $100. On the turn. The other player thinks for maybe a second and goes all in.
I fold...

My question is should I have made the call even with the possible flush draw hitting on the turn and still a straight draw on the board? My thoughts were any trips, flush, or 2 pair have me beat so I made a lay down that I really did not like. The quick all in made me think it was a bluff but there was just too many better hands that would have me beat.
I also only saw this guy in one hand earlier and he was betting for value.
I also had the Kd for a possible back door flush...
What are your guys thoughts. Any input is appreciated!

Just my opinion, but once 6 people call the straddle, the pot is $50.
Your raise to $22 is WAYYY to small. I’d probably make it $57-77.

As played your bet on the flop is also WAYYY to small. I’d make it ($60-$80)

But if you had made the preflop raise I suggested you could bet $100 or more on the flop depending on who called.

And yes, in the end it’s sucks and you’re probably behind but for $50 into $430 you absolutely have to call (even though you’re almost certainly behind)

But it was your VERY small preflop and flop bets that put you in this position.

no you cant fold your last $50 after investing nearly $300, at least not with KK and a possible redraw to a better flush. But your problems began long before this happened. For starters you gotta raise more preflop. With the $7 out there you should treat this as a 2/5 game instead of 1/3. Your $22 raise over 6 limpers (!) is like just a minraise begging to get your hand crushed. You should have raised to about $50 preflop. This will get much more money into the pot for you with a strong hand like KK and also prevent too many players with random hands into the pot.

On to the flop, same general principle, you surely have the best hand but you gotta bet more. Betting less than half pot is like saying "hey who wants a cheap price to beat me?". If they're gonna draw then make them pay. You should have bet closer to $75 or so. Now maybe if someone just went allin right here on the flop you could consider folding, but if they just called then you're going with it all the way at this point because you are pot committed.

On this turn while it's possible someone could have a flush as mentioned earlier you simply cannot fold. What if he just has 89d? You could actually outdraw him and you'd be right to call even if he showed you his hand at this point. But what if he showed you AdJc? He may just be going allin because thats often what fish do when pressed with ANY draw. They just figure they have to get their money in because missing a chance to double up would be criminal in their minds.

Way too small of a raise preflop with all this dead money in and the number of people that will undoubtedly call this very small raise; heck, I would raise *way* more than $22 here in a non-straddled pot after 7 limpers, let alone a straddled pot.

When it comes around to us preflop, there is about $50 in the pot. Taking this down uncontested (and unraked, I'm assuming) is actually a decent result if that is what ends up happening, so don't be afraid of going big. I'd go at least $50. You could even get a little fancy and pretend you're going for a steal of all the dead money and go like $100 to setup a flop shove. $22 is horrendous though, imo; we've setup an SPR 2.5 pot where it will be almost impossible to get away from our hand (we should feel committed with any bet), and yet we gave 4 opponents all awesome ~30:1 IO to stack us.

Flop is very drawy and pot (if I've added right) is about $125. I just PSB the thing to get the rest in on the turn. I have no idea why we are betting ~1/3 PSB when we should feel committed (for better or worse), which will also create an awkward $205 pot HU with $260 left on the turn (we should be aiming to get in all the chips in ASAP on this board, not drag it out over 3 streets).

Your post is a mess. Do you have $150 left or $260 left? My math says $260. The pot should be over $200.

Anyways, you'll get better responses if you post proper stack sizes and pot sizes, but in a nutshell preflop and postflop bets were way too small. You're in a gross spot on the turn depending on your actual stack size.

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I'll go over each street, I think there are definitely some things you can do differently.

Preflop: Way too small of a raise. You have a premium holding, and 6 people have called a $7 straddle. Instead of $22, you could go much bigger to something like $60, maybe even bigger depending on the table. There is currently $49 of dead money sitting on the table, you have to charge more. I bet you would still get more than one caller, and then you don't have weird, 5 way flop decisions.

Flop: The pot is roughly $109 and you have $300 left. Betting $40 is really small, especially since you want to charge people for draws and set up a turn all-in. Something like $70-$80 would be better.

Turn: You had $320 to start, so after you bet $100, you have more like $160 left right? (not $50). I'll analyze it like you bet $100 on turn and have $150 left instead of betting $100 and having $50 behind. So the pot is about $180, and you bet $100, which I think is fine. After he jams, it is a pretty gross spot, but I don't think you can fold. You have to call $150 to win $680 (pot + your bet(s) + his bet(s)). You are only drawing dead against the nut flush, and you have odds to call really against anything else. It's not the best spot. (if you only have $50 left you should snap call).

The turn jam by Villain is a great example of why I think betting bigger pre-flop and on the flop would be helpful. Then you can just jam the turn for value and not have to worry about making a marginal call/fold.