Live 2/3, Hero is young white guy been at table for about an hour and has about 700 in his stack.
Main villian is middle age European gentleman who seems to be a somewhat thinking player with about 400 in his stack

Hero has not played a hand in 2 orbits and gets dealt 64dd in the BB.

There are 4 limpers to us and we raise to 17.

We get 3 callers to a flop of 789dd

We decide to lead here for 25. If we're going to be raising this hand preflop we dont think we should be slow playing when we flop a world of equity.

UTG calls and the BTN min raises to 50.
We decide to 3bet here to 155, thinking we can sometimes get top pair or weak two pair, and possibly straight draws to fold. Villian decides to call and we see a 4 on the turn.

Here we pick up yet even more outs and have played our hand so far like JT with no flush draw and a set that is scared of getting drawn out on. With this in mind we decide to go ahead and lead shove the turn for villians ~230. Villian eventually tank calls after deducing with certainty that I am holding pocket AA.



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This hand is a total disaster IMO. Just check preflop. You are not deep enough to be able to effectively barrel this hand. If you are going to raise, you need to make it 25-30 and be about 700+ eff.

AP, that flop is pretty close to gin, so just GII with so much equity, though I don't expect to have much FE.

Preflop is awful, 64s is a bad hand.

Flop is bad as well. Although you have a bunch of outs, none of them are to the nuts and people are generally not kidding around here when they raise this flop. You probably don't have any FE, so there's no point in reraising and ramming your hand into JT pretty frequently. Just take your cheap price to draw and be thankful for it. As played though, turn shove is good, with the pot getting large relative to stacks it's time to apply maximum pressure.

Not true, we have an OESF draw.

And while its true we may get over-flushed here, if we make our flush on say a 3 turn, are we really going to fold getting such a good price and still having outs if we are over-flushed? This is a spot where it helps to not be super deep, so that's why I advocate shoving flop.

Pre is awful, it doesnt matter if you havent played a hand in 80 orbits

Otf seems fine to bet, once he raises and we have 6 high im okay with the 3b then ripping turn or just ripping flop. We cant just call, and obv cant fold.

Ott seems fine

pf horrible. Just check.

As played bet bigger on the flop. Small bet here doesn't accomplish anything.

Pre is real bad but compounded even more by awful small sizing.

It seems pretty clear that you have no fold equity. On the turn, you did pick up more outs but your equity has cut in half. Don't raise pre. Flop sizing is bad. Flop 3! sizing is good. Turn jam is fine because we are never folding now. All of this said, you put yourself in a terrible position where you putting 100+BB in on the turn with at best 30% equity (if some of your outs aren't dead which is really very possible). In this game, you should be trying to hit your hands and get paid off. Bet for value and print $.

I don't like your outs here on the straight. I would call pre or fold pre. There's no reason to commit your stack because even if you hit you've got 2nd best straight or get outflushed.

Do we know which flop cards are diamonds? I still wouldn't call this an OESF draw. We may need runner runner to make the SF. And we have the low end of the SD. Not much of a combo if you ask me.

AP, I think the pre sizing is the worst. If you can drive out most of the junk hands with a strong pre bet then maybe this line can be more successful. But I also agree that the flop raise is usually strong here too, making the decision to play for stacks with weak draws seems long term unprofitable.

I've suffered from this syndrome before as well (although not lately). Representing a big hand because you've been card dead forever. But if they can put you on AA and still call, your perceived strength doesn't matter much, in fact it may have worked against you on this board as they dont assume you waited that long to get spicy with JT.

This is a really interesting hand.
I like trying to exploit our image preflop, if the table is capable of reacting to that.

I think this flop requires us to check our whole range.
What do we do if we have the nut flush draw and the turn is a brick? Get it in bad? How do we get paid when we hit?

What do we do with a set, when the turn brings four to a straight or a diamond?

What do we do with AA otr, hero call?

I am WAYYYYY more loose than most in this forum when it comes to preflop decisions.

That said, pre is pure spew. If you're gonna raise pre in this spot it should have been wayyy bigger, but just check.

Flat the raise OTF.

FYI. These posts aren't helpful unless you include:
Why preflop was a disaster?
Why flop is bad?
Why turn is "worse of the worse"?
Otherwise OP doesn't know how to adjust in the future. Sometimes Mods get unhappy about non-constructive posts.

I think going aggro here could be fine but I agree that the main issue is bet sizing. I’d prob limp pre but if image really is super tight then going $25-28 every once and a while to mix it up is fine.

On the flop though, I wouldn’t lead. If you’ve got AA-QQ/AK here you should be checking this board so do the same with this hand. If someone bets, I like a big c/r, especially if there are some folds before it gets to you. If they wake up with JT so be it, you’ve got outs. You can easily rep a set here with a big preflop raise on the BB against a lot of limpers and maybe even hands like 89s/JTs every once and a while.

So yes, you did spew here but with a few adjustments and ensuring you take this line like 20% of the time or less with 64s on the BB, you can work this play in more effectively.

Lol is this a troll?

That is exactly what I thought after reading it. If it isn't, it's a post from someone pretty much clueless about Hold 'Em poker.