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Did I optimally play TT? Did I optimally play TT?

02-25-2018 , 01:16 PM
1/2 NL. Hero got to the table about a half hour after it opened, and this hand takes place an hour after hero sat down. This table has a lot of action. The table is very loose, with a mixture of LAG and LP and there's a lot of nonsense going on.

Hero ($240, MP1): Hero is likely seen as the only tight player at the table. In the hour hero has sat down, he has played seven hands, three of which he has opened pre (took two down with c bet, lost one to an oversized donk bet when he had JJ on a AK3hhh board with no h), one where he 4! pre (UTG opened to $7, BTN 3! to $20 and hero 4! to $65 from SB with AKo), and three of which he just called a raise. This hand takes place five hands after hero 4! pre and took it down.

Villain 1 ($400, UTG +1): Hero has never seen villain 1 before. Villain 1 is simultaneously playing hold 'em love and $1/$2 PLO on the PPPoker app with MP2. It sounds like MP2 is losing a lot on PLO and owes MP2 $600 in PLO loans. Villain 1 has been an unbelievably huge calling station pre flop. He hasn't been raising it hardly ever pre flop, but has been limping and then calling $20 OOP regularly. Villain 1 also straddles every single UTG and BTN and talks about how much he loves action every 5 seconds.

Villain 2 ($500, CO): Villain 2 and hero play together a few times a month. Villain 2 is not good at all. He thinks he's great and regularly talks about strategy at the table and away from the table. He can never wait to show a bluff and tell the player exactly what he put him on, or if someone folds and shows, he'll always say "I put you on exactly (their hole cards)." Villain 2 is almost as big of, but not quite as big of, a calling station pre flop as villain 1. Villain 2 does regularly get deep stacked because of his aggression, but villain 2 definitely loses a lot more than he wins. Villain 2 was the villain that donk overbet the AK3hhh board when villain had JJ with no heart (pot was $45 and he led out for $70), and showed hero just the Q and said "yeah, you were ahead but I put you on a weak ace and didn't think you'd call." Villain 2 is also the villain that 3! and hero 4! in SB with AKo, and villain 2 showed 33 and said "nice try Mr. Aces."

OTTH

BTN straddles for $5, SB calls, villain 1 calls, and hero looks up to 10 10 and raises to $30. Villain 2 calls, BTN calls, and villain 1 call.

Flop ($128): 4 5 10

Villain 1 checks, hero bets $65, villain 2 calls, BTN folds and villain 1 calls.

Turn ($223): K

Villain 1 checks, and hero jams for $145.

Regardless of whether villain 1/2 folded, called, or re-shoved, did hero optimally play his hand? After the fact, I'm not sure I love the turn shove due to the fact that it was 65% of the pot. The reasons I do like the turn shove are because I have $145 behind is because if I were to bet say $70, it's 1/3 the pot and it's very clear what I'm doing on the river. Also, villain 2 can get very cocky in these spots and call with something along the lines of AT because he'll say "well he's obviously not shoving there with a K, he's definitely checking and trying to trap," OR he could've floated with a hand like KQ or AK which he does definitely do. Lastly, I wouldn't put past either of the villains to call with 67 or a turned flush draw. Either way, I'm not 100% loving the shove or hating it, and would like some feedback. Thank you!

Last edited by sixsevenoff; 02-25-2018 at 01:28 PM.
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02-25-2018 , 01:27 PM
I think this hand was played optimally; the turn is a jam IMO, although you can mix in a trap from time to time. The flop SPR is such that you should try to get it in with two bets. You simply cannot bet smaller on the turn, since you'd be pot committed.
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02-25-2018 , 01:31 PM
NH; WP.
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02-25-2018 , 01:35 PM
Hand is fine, gg.

You're probably not viewwed as tight though if you're playing ~25% of hands and have 4bet already in the first hour.
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02-25-2018 , 01:41 PM
This is very encouraging seeing the first three posters saying I played the hand well. Maybe I really am learning a lot from twoplustwo!

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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Hand is fine, gg.

You're probably not viewwed as tight though if you're playing ~25% of hands and have 4bet already in the first hour.
Lots of hands have been ending at the flop, not too many are actually getting to showdown. It's probably been slightly longer than an hour and less than 20% of hands. While I will say that generally I would not be viewed as a tight player with those stats, a few people at the table have mumbled about how I don't play many hands after I opened a pot, and on top of that I would have to say I'm the only player at the table that has played less than 1/4 of hands, maybe even 1/3.
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02-25-2018 , 04:59 PM
Well-played.
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02-25-2018 , 10:16 PM
Good hand. Looks fine.
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