1/3 NL 7 handed $300 effective

One of the nittiest tables I have ever played on. At this point I am opening any two suited cards from any position and c-betting every flop. V has only been at the table 30 minutes or less so I am not sure if he has picked up on how loose I am playing

Hero LJ (6 6) bet $15
Fold to V in SB call

Pot ($30) flop Q Q 2
V check
Hero bet $10
V call

My read at this point is that he isn't very strong. It felt like he was making a crying call and I really doubt he has a Q. Pocket pairs and A high hands are all in his range still.

Pot ($50) Turn K
V check
Hero ??

I didn't get the impression that the K improved him by the way that he checked.

I feel confident if I bet here he is folding 77-JJ. However when I get called I am always behind.

Do I bet here to deny equity or check down?

If the villain is going to fold a better pair and doesn't have a K, seems like a logical choice to bet.

Gotta be better tables to play at? In most hands we end up in we're the "maniac" with our loose range playing against the tighter/dominating range of the player the table designates to oppose us, and that might be difficult to overcome overall in spite of the many small pots we steal (especially if we're not paying too much heed to position).

As the hand is played, I think I'd be ok with another small bet here because as you point out, it's not just equity protection versus pot control, but we also have some real FE against better hands too. So like a $20 bet is sorta a mixture of all three, and checking back the river UI.

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Agree with GG, a small bet with entire range will print

It's not about denying equity. You made a tiny cbet, players today are calling cbets some of them with their entire range. When you bet 10, what is your plan for the turn?

The king smashes YOUR range. so bet 40/give up if he calls.

If he's playing as loose as described, all the regular posters here would have sure as hell noticed after 30 minutes. However, I agree with the bet.

I think $25-$30 would be better and, baring a set on the river, checking behind.

But then, I have a tendency to bet about 1/2+ pot on the turn to punish draws. Not saying that's the case here, but the same play seems right.

You aren't denying equity to 77-JJ you are bluffing them. If villian had AT or any unpaired hand that has overs to your pair then you are denying equity. IE they have equity with those hands and you are denying them the chance to realize it.

Otth, I'm betting 40 and giving up if he calls

Why would you raise so big preflop at a nitty table? You're offering yourself a terrible price to steal the blinds and making their nitty play somewhat more correct.

This isn't necessarily a bad table to play against. These players are just as clueless about poker as loose passive fish. They just have a different wrong approach that loses less money more consistently.

I bet this pretty much always assuming I don't have a rad that someone is particularly sticky or getting sick of me pushing everyone around. As an aside, there is a real line at some point when the table decides they're done with your sh*t and someone calls you you down. It's taken me a long time to anticipate this moment before it happens. You were there so you'll know if that's what was happening.

Yeah, anticipating when the table or specific V is going to draw that read is really key for me as well.

Bet turn.

+1. The way to beat these guys is to take our ample opportunities to induce incorrect folds out of them often, and for as cheap as we possibly can. So in nitty games, I want to open wider ranges for small sizes and take advantage of the fact that they aren’t taking advantage of me.

A lot of these guys also tend to have high WTSD after getting past the turn, so we can always exploit again by sticking huge value bets in the times we do have a strong hand


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I like a bet with hopes that he holds, but if he calls and checks river, I’m checking back. If he raises on the turn I’m folding.

i think you have to bet the turn. reeval if he calls and fold to a raise