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01-02-2019 , 09:30 AM

NMIZIZ

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 116

Please consider the following hand:
2/4/8 game.
Hero opens in EP to 30. MP calls. Straddle calls.
Flop ($96) J75 rainbow. Straddle donks 70! (note the relatively large sizing!)
Hero calls.
Turn ($236) offsuit J. So J75J. Straddle jams for $420.
Which hands are calls here?

Villain was an inexperienced rec. Busted from the $200 Tournament.
My assessment was that he might be stupid enough to even play 77 this way.
On the other hand, could he be the other kind of stupid and play AA this way?
He should know/fear that I have a lot of J in this spot.

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01-02-2019 , 10:17 AM

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,516

Why not Jx?

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01-02-2019 , 10:37 AM

mikko

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,863

Don't know until we call.

Calling Jx and Boats.

Flop sizing isn't huge. Standard operating procedure from recs.

Sizing helps us. As we don't have to defend very wide.

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01-02-2019 , 10:44 AM

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

If I'm opening from EP I only have AJ, JJ, 55 and 77 that interact with this board and I'm calling down with all of them. I would probably fold AA- to the turn shove but I'm open to arguments not to (and I probably would have raised and gotten all in on the flop with AA, KK, QQ).

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01-02-2019 , 10:49 AM

NMIZIZ

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 116

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

(and I probably would have raised and gotten all in on the flop with AA, KK, QQ).

Why would you ever do that vs a donk bet?

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01-02-2019 , 11:08 AM

MikeStarr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 7,962

What makes you think playing 77 or AA this way is all that stupid? Unconventional lines that you cant figure out arent all stupid.

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01-02-2019 , 12:36 PM

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

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Originally Posted by NMIZIZ

Why would you ever do that vs a donk bet?

To stack an inexperience rec who thinks top pair in the nuts.

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