Hero: Young Asian male. Solid tight-aggressive player. Only been at the table an hour, and only played one hand where I 3bet big whale's UTG open, and took it down on the flop with a cbet, so probably perceived as nitty.

Villain: Mid 30s professional player. Recognized by many regs, and mentioned being chip leader in big tournament that is currently running. Seems like a good player, but did setmine with jacks after calling a 4bet that was too big to profitably setmine. On another hand, floated flop oop with gutshot, called nit's turn bet with a turned double gutter which also hit the flopped flush draw, and bet out river to rep flush after he missed. I thought it was a terrible hand, but it worked. Overall, sees a lot of flops and not afraid to splash around a bit.

$2/5 NL $1000 max Tampa Hard Rock

SB
BB
UTG
EP
EP2 Villain ($3000)
MP
MP2
LP
Button Hero ($1100)

Hero is dealt KJ

Big whale in LP straddles $10, button Hero is first to act and raises to $40 to isolate whale, everyone folds except Villain, who calls $40.

Flop ($90): A T 6

Villain checks, Hero bets $65, Villain calls.

Turn ($220): 8

Villain checks, Hero bets $150, Villain thinks for a bit and raises to $475. Hero?

Probably a fold, we aren't drawing to the nuts and V often has a very strong hand here.

Not sure villains line is very strong. Unless he has exactly 97cc the turn is a total brick, and a great bluff card, for alot of his continuing range on the flop.

Regardless, it's 325 to see a pot of $845. we're getting 2.6 to 1 and we have 13 pretty big outs for 28.2% equity or 2.5 to 1. With that price, and the money behind I think it's a pretty easy call even if villain is never bluffing here.

And f this game....$10 cutoff straddles??? Can anyone straddle?? Pm me the address of this game please.

Check the turn, you are against two opponents and your chances of picking up this pot on the flop go down a lot. A lot of cards can fall on the river that complete your hand but don't give you the nuts. You could be in a pretty sticky situation with a bloated pot. As played I lay it down.

This, or even come over top and push back

I'd avoid barreling IP with drawing hands as we can take a free card (best outcome) while not giving V a chance to blow us off our hand with a c/r (worst).

AP consider your hand equivalent to air, (stack depth doesn't provide IO even if V always pays rivered Qh) and fold.

looks like a call to me. 2.5:1 , we are barely getting direct odds (if our flush cards are live).. plus the 520 we have behind OTR implied , i doubt he can c/f to a 1/2 PSB.. even if he c/f the river though it is a slightly +ev call

I don't understand why some are suggesting a check behind OTT. It looks like a clear double-barrel spot to me. Hero is perceived as nitty and V is described as splashy, so he should be calling Hero's flop cbet wide. A double-barrel OTT should get folds from a lot of pairs in V's range including putting a lot of pressure on Ax since Hero's hand will look a lot like AQ+. If called OTT, it sets up a nice spot to get a somewhat disguised hand paid off OTR.

As played when c/r, this is a mandatory call since you basically have the direct odds plus position plus some implied odds. Sure, we fear th NFD as a RIO situation but there are many other hands in his range that can take this line and pay off some OTR.

Call.

If the stacks were deeper and we had a read that V could make big lay downs such as two pair, then would be an option since Hero's line would look a whole lot like AA or TT. But I think V calls here a lot since it was almost be a minraise. So I think calling is best.

V is also playing full time and used to the game in the description, if hero is viewed as a typical nit then his AJ/AQ type hands can NOT take much more pressure OTT.

AP though call.

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Check behind the turn IMO.

As played, you can call if you know V is going to be betting all rivers (including rivers that make your hand). At this point you're incapable of bluffing the river successfully, so you need correct odds to call. Getting 2.6:1 right now from the pot ($325 to win $840), so V has to bet at least $400 on 100% of rivers to make our call right now correct ($325 to win $1240 = 3.8:1) if we assume all of our outs are clean (not a given). I wouldn't be quite so concerned with bet sizing as I would his willingness to pull the trigger on cards that complete our hand.

HOWEVA, given the possible RIO situation of making your flush and having as few as 3 outs, I think this is probably a fold. Such considerations are why I'd probably be checking behind on the turn and making V act first on the river when my holdings are somewhat more obscure.

If the villain knows that you are a competent player that is capable of reading hands, then why would he wait to the turn to raise? The flop has many draws, so if he had a strong made hand, he would most often raise the flop. His check-raise is interesting, as people have already said, you can profitably call and then fire if he gives up his bluff on the river.

Bluffing this river when checked to is suicide.

Maximizing fold equity. Try to get into V's thought process and what would you think a double barrel range from a perceived nit look like? And how does that range fare with a check raise?

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Against a V that is capable of making moves (tricky player), I'm checking this turn back and taking the free card due to being put in situations like this. Good raise size by V.

You don't have the odds to draw but most likely implied odds would make it correct considering you probably get paid off on river if you hit. On another note, if the Ac was on board I'd be more inclined to call considering we'd be drawing to the nut flush....but since we're not...think I might fold and not say what I had to anyone.

Other than Rum&Monkey, does anyone think it would be ok to jam all in on top? Against my perceived image of being a nit and the fact that my range here is typically capped at one pair, the large check-raise on the turn doesn't really seem like it's for value. Is it possible that villain here is also semibluffing with some much weaker draw that I have dominated?

Grunch - IMO he puts you on something like AK/AQ/AJ so he's capping your range at top pair, but what the heck is he trying to rep? Seems like the player type that plays a huge range of hands preflop and then tries to rep any possible hand later on - works well when stacks are deep enough that he can bet $500+ leaving money behind.

I don't think a shove is terrible. He could easily fold the best hand like 77, some T's or 8's. And if he's bluffing with draws you have the best hand right now however you can't realize your bluff vs. bluff equity at showdown because I don't think he's ever checking the river.

Given Vs description, I don't think shoving is awful. He easily could have air here. He could be trying to push a perceived nit off one pair. He seems like a guy that makes a lot of plays. I like shoving better than calling because of the FE.

I would think V has a pretty wide range here. He'd do this with his made hands (2 pair, sets). He do this with Ax of clubs and pair/draw hands like J8 of clubs. For this V, I think he's capable of a cr with small pps where he peeled one off and missed. I wouldn't put it past him to be doing this as weak as a gutshot.

That being said, I would have gone for pot control and checked back the turn. Against a typical player, I like a bet because of our image and huge draw. Against this V, I'd check. He's going to be firing a ton of rivers after you check back. You get value from his bluffs. You get to draw for free. You get away cheaply if you miss. Having position on the river against this V is huge. You likely will get paid when you hit and won't have to put any more $ in when you don't.

Hard Rock Tampa...anyone can straddle..priority starts at the button

checking behind ott seems bad and super results oriented

ship the turn as played.... he reps next to nothing