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Old 12-03-2017, 02:29 PM   #1
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Spade Deep stack hand analysis

1-2 NLH midnight deepstacks
Player descriptions in order of position:
V1 (SB) (800) is a 65 y/o white guy and good regular LAG
V2 (UTG) (1050) is a 50 y/o white woman, playing TAG/LAG, just showed a two barrel bluff with 85off on a 2Q9A board in a pot she opened on the button about 5-6 hands ago.
V3 (MP) (2100) is the fish/whale at the table, has went all in multiple time with less than 10% equity and has hit everything.
Hero (MP) (1100) Hero MAWG, Plays TAG/LAG right now playing TAG.
V4 (HJ) (650) is primarily an Omaha player and is very aggressive
V5 (CO) (750) is MAWG who is also aggressive playing TAG.

V2 UTG open for 17, this is only 2-5 dollars more than the table standard which is 12-15 standard open.
UTG +1 folds
V3 (MP) calls
Hero (MP) Calls with 77
V4 (HJ) calls
V5 (CO) calls
button folds
V1 (SB) calls
BB folds

Flop Pot (104)

Flop 986

V1 checks
V2 bets 75
V3 folds
Hero Calls 75
V4 folds
v5 folds

Turn Heads up: pot (254)
2

V2 bets 200
Hero raises to 600??? Does my line make sense? I have put the villain on an over pair, AK-AJ suited? I think a large semi-bluff here gives me a ton of fold equity, I have 10 outs if I get called, so I think I have about 20% equity here. Should I have become more aggressive in the flop when I had more equity?
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:18 PM   #2
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

single raised pot, 500bb eff stacks, no raise otf, and we are playing a 1000bb pot ott. lol live poker.

Im probably folding otf this multiway and still 3 to act, and as played folding ott. We have better hands to continue here and better equity semibluffs.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:46 PM   #3
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

I’m folding the flop as we only have 6 clean outs. With this many players in the hand one of them most likely has a flush draw so 2 of our heart outs aren’t good. Also, if you hit one of your outs it will put 4 to a straight on the board and there’s a good chance V’s won’t put anymore money in the pot. Also, a T gives you a straight but it also puts multiple higher straights on the board.

Also, your raise on the turn looks like total BS. If you had a super strong hand on the flop you would have raised as the board is super wet and you’d want to raise to charge all the draws.
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:40 PM   #4
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

Post flop is butchered OP.

Fold flop.

AP fold turn.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:55 PM   #5
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

On the flop you really have to consider there are 3 people behind you. You can't call there.

In a vacuum the turn is an interesting spot, if I got here, I'd be thinking about a big raise because V should have a lot of big pairs. Can V fold these hands?
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Old 12-04-2017, 06:57 PM   #6
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

As said above, with players left to act you almost have to fold flop.

FWIW we actually have only one clean out, 7d for quads. Every other out we have is not to the nuts. (I'm not trying to be pedantic, OP is a newbie and learning to instantly read a board is not something I take for granted.)
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:20 PM   #7
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

Definitely an interesting hand that keeps you coming back!

I definitely understand the thought process but I would have thought about it a bit different. If V2 has opened that early she could easily have a set, the nut flush draw or combo draw. Even against an over pair calling the flop bet is only if you really want to gamble. As you played it I think you lay down after the turn.
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:08 AM   #8
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Re: Deep stack hand analysis

Their are two ways to view your opponent. Either she has a big overpaid and trying to protect against a draw on the turn or she is feeling like Superman after passing that other bluff through.

Occasionally in these spots I like to take my equity and add in some bluff equity. I really don’t believe she has a flush draw here very often due to her sizing so I think those are ours that could be represented on the river. I think a lot of cards potentially slow her down on the river and give you opportunities to take the hand away. If you are planning to be frisky and continue in the hand I would flat on the turn and put in a hefty river bet depending on texture.

As mentioned previously by not raising the flop you have pretty much shown your not on a made hand and would only put yourself in a disastrous spot by raising the turn.
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