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Decision w/AA on drawy board. Decision w/AA on drawy board.

01-31-2014 , 02:31 PM
2/5 nl

Hero - AdAh in the SB w/$850 stack. Been very tight since sitting down 2-3 hours ago. Lately getting trash hands so table sees me as extra tight now.
V - cutoff. Mid aged white guy. Very Loose PF and capable of firing multiple barrels w/nothing but a gutshot post. bets the same way w/strong hands (sets, 2 pairs). Volatile stack that went from $800 to $1.2k to $400 and now at $900.

2 limpers to V who raises to $20. He does this with AJss+, KJss+, and pairs.
H raises to $75
V insta-calls.

I am trying to incorporate concepts from Ed Millers NLHE book (commitment, SPR etc) into my game, so I figured SPR of ~5.5 vs a loose player is good enough for my hand here.

Flop
Kd7d2c

H bets $120
V insta-calls again

Turn Qd

Gives me a FD vs his range which could be a pair of K, 2 pair, set, flush, and bluffs

H checks

V bets $150


I planned to be committed on the flop but now I am rethinking that. I still have $650 left and pot is now $540. I don't hand read that well so am worried about a number of hands but don't want to be bluffed out given my weak-tight image.

If I call then most likely, he will shove the river. What is my play??

Thanks!

Last edited by DryAngel; 01-31-2014 at 02:46 PM.
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01-31-2014 , 05:37 PM
I think you can call down pretty much any river vs described villian.
The turn is a meh card, two pairs and flushes just got there. Even though you have the nfd and blocker.
So i like a check call turn and probably check call river even if you dont improve.
The only card i might fold to on river is a K. This villian is bluffy based on your description so give him rope now.

The alternative is check shove, but i think in this spot if you check shove its hard to imagine much worse hands that will call, plus your really not that worried about letting a free card come off, and finally he cant bluff us anymore.
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01-31-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DryAngel
I am trying to incorporate concepts from Ed Millers NLHE book (commitment, SPR etc) into my game....

I planned to be committed on the flop but now I am rethinking that.
Then...you're committed. My favorite part of the Ed Miller commitment system is the new found courage. I could see bailing out here if a K had popped off but...make a committed bet on the turn.
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01-31-2014 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by InTheDark
Then...you're committed. My favorite part of the Ed Miller commitment system is the new found courage. I could see bailing out here if a K had popped off but...make a committed bet on the turn.
I would argue the Q is the next worst card after a K.
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01-31-2014 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
I would argue the Q is the next worst card after a K.
Agreed. But the Miller idea is that you 'just do it' so you can't be weak tighted into doom.
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01-31-2014 , 08:39 PM
Min raise turn and call a shove.
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02-01-2014 , 12:40 AM
Any thoughts on check/shoving the turn?

That's what I would do.


bcause a fish said so
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02-01-2014 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Min raise turn and call a shove.
Oh ya?

I like a check/call line better in this situation. Only a few cards can make the river situation a lot tougher (Q or K) so why do we get rid if him if we are committed? Let's call, get another card and probably jam river lol

Honestly though, my nitty self would convince myself that he has KQ and felt disrespected pre so he called... Then his K came. Then the Q came to poke her head in and **** you

Last edited by RyanAA44; 02-01-2014 at 05:46 AM.
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02-01-2014 , 05:43 AM
I think I check/shove the turn....

You have a flush redraw if he has a made flush, two pair or set.
You have also have a redraw to a better two pair if a 7 or 2 hits... assuming he's got KQ.
And heck, you might even have the best hand right now if he's playing like KJ, KT or QJ.

You even have fold equity if he has a smaller flush, small 2 pair or even small set - especially with your ultra tight image.

I hate his insta-calls... it reeks of a strong hand. But unless he's got KK, he's got to be worried that you've got a better hand.
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02-01-2014 , 10:35 AM
Continuing the hand.

H tank-calls the $150
I need the flush to hit to be sure I am winning this pot with $500 left in my stack and a $690 pot.

Like HiroNakamara above says, it reeks of a stronger hand - 2 pair, flush, sets.

River - Jh

Full board: Kd7d2cQdJh

H checks
V shoves after a little while and checks his cards before shoving. I know I have a weak-tight image but I think he knows I have an overpair or AK type hand here and he is not bluffing.

Range is very polarized - either a hand that beats me or a bluff.

I am inclined to call - but this is exactly how I lose my stack a lot of times.
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