2/5 NL

Table: diverse group of folks, limped around maybe 30% of time, other times PF raises anywhere from $15-$25, very little 3-betting, nobody trying to run over table at the moment.

Hero: 30's, white dude, first time playing at this venue, has been keeping to himself, chatting only when chatted to, table image is TAG & possibly a bit nitty since Hero has been virtually card dead entire session.

Villain: Asian gentleman, mid-late 40's, ABC player, hates folding, Loose Passive, has been on a bit of a heater in the last 2 hours, plays almost any two cards...about an hour ago watched him call an $200 all-in on a flop of Kx9x10x with 7 8 os, hits 6 on riv to scoop about a $600 pot. Suppose he's feeling lucky...

HERO (UTG+1) $550ish: A A

VILLAIN (SB) $800ish: ? ?

PF: UTG limps, Hero makes it $25 to go, folded around to Villain who smooth calls, UTG folds.

FLOP: 7 6 2
Pot ~$58
Villain checks to Hero, Hero bets $55, Villain thinks, gets his chips in calling position, and slowly pushes them forward.

TURN: 7 6 2 7
Pot ~$165
Villain checks, Hero feels like Villain's range includes a 7 here, but could have a flush draw too. Hero reluctantly opts to check. Hero is thinking he doesn't want to be check-raised here...

RIVER: 7 6 2 7 K
Pot ~$165
Villain waits approximately 30 seconds and then bets out $140.

Hero?

Which of Hero's decisions in this hand can be improved?

Thanks in advance for any feedback guys/gals.

Sounds like a straight forward player post flop, I would fold as played.

Folding after you checked the turn?

This is why you should never post results in OP.

top pair on the flop pairing is usually not too good for an overpair.

This is so not true...

Top pair pairing in a raised pot is almost meaningless in this spot.

ya it makes it that much harder he actually has a 7


only think to go on is the bet sizing tell.

you only have to be good here 1/3rd of the time to make this a profitable call.

You are going to be beat a lot - so it really depends on what you use the info for. Most players arn't bluffing pot unless they are drunk - or are very good.

You won't see this much @ low stakes so a pot size bet on the river is more weighted towards value in my years of playing.

Only at higher stakes have I noticed more big bet bluffing - could be coincidence but just what i've noticed.

I think a call or fold here is both fine. Expect to see missed flush draws / sets / some stupid random 7 hand or maybe even pocket 10's turning his hand into a bluff.

I'm folding vs any one who is a nit here though but readless I don't mind a call.

edit - Against this player i'm most likely calling. This is also 2/5 and I thought it was 1/2 for a second.

Edit 2 - also make it bigger pre - like $35. People who limp UTG are most likely sticky with their hand. Usually weighted towards small pocket pairs or suited connecters that want to see a cheap flop but will still call a 7x raise. you might also get that moron who limp re raises AA-QQ and can get some real value.

Got to call as played. Your hand is under repped and he could be betting busted draws on the river after you checked the turn. No draws get there on the river, so it's actually a very safe card for you barring him already having you beat with a 7.

OTT - If villain is passive getting c/r is not as bad as it seems because he will almost always have a 7 or better allowing you to bet/fold with more confidence.

AP OTR - Call since villain will show up with a king or worse a enough of the time (AK, Kdxd, 88-JJ) to make calling +ev. Not sure if it would be the same for a J or T (not d) otr

Let me spoil - that sucks to see. Given he doesn't raise tp+fd otf I like b/f otr even more because he will almost certainly not be bluffing.

I haven't read results or any of the posts yet,

I take it you lost the pot. But to be honest I snap call, in particular after checking turn as this gives V room to think he can now bluff us on the river.

Sure if V has been playing passive the whole session and now comes up with this river bet I may fold, but against a loose cannon I think we have to call.

Bet/fold turn. Yes 7x is in his range but so is any pair, any low connected cards and some flush draws.

You miss too much value from worse hands and give draws a free card by checking back turn. Any raise on this turn is 0% bluff and makes our bet/fold as standard as they come.

B/f turn 110...he has much more draws than 7s

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I would have bet the turn. But as played, snap call this river. He would bet any King (King high diamond draw that he thinks just got there). He may also bet any missed diamond draw and now only can win with a bluff. Sure some 7s make up part of his range (and flopped sets), but I think you have to call with your hand definitely under-repped.

The turn makes it a difficult read, however, he seems unafraid of a king in your range which is very likely. It really is a toss up between calling and folding but call and hope he hit some weird king

Probably Betting turn most of the time but checking isn't terrible. As played snap it off. Lost? Oh well. Next hand.

This is very villain dependent, but typically near full PSB on the river from passive players are big hands almost always at 1/2.


You under repped your hand, so against most villains I would call, but with your description of this guy, I could probably find a fold.

Losing 40bb to a player that calls 5bb in SB HU with T7s is not really a loss, more like an investment.

Yes, must bet the turn here, check fold most rivers. Fold river as played.

We really mustn´t be scared of being bluffed in these spot, or being valuebet by worse. The thing to fear is missing value when they will call with worse hands. You have hard evidence that this player will certainly do it so that should be your plan to get his money.

River, call.

Recommend bet/fold the turn for 90ish. Villain should never bluff this spot.

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Folding river would be criminal as played. Agree turn is usually a b/f.

Why don't you wanna get check-raised on the turn? Against a passive player you can safely fold and know you're beat.

Turn is a obvious bet, your gonna get called by straight draws, flush draws, overpairs and possibly worse. The only hand that beats you is a 7...

Turn is a Bet/Fold and as played River is a snap call

Is anyone worried that betting so much on the flop will actually encourage Villain to play better?

Yes, his mistake is calling too much, and the bigger the bet he calls with 88 or T7 or whatever, the bigger the mistake. But I think he might call 1/2 pot twice with 55 or A2s, while he can possibly get away from them for $55 on the flop.

+1
This board and spot is perfect to get value. Only against a maniac would I check turn

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Yeah, I called his river bet really hoping to beat an overpair, AK, or a bluff. In hindsight, I could've found a fold here, maybe even flipped my hand over after his bet and see how he reacted.

Certainly a good way to look at it. I'm hoping to see this guy at the tables again soon.

My turn bet of $110 or so would've saved me $$ anyway, provided this player CR's turn, or shoves river.

Good advice, thanks.