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04-14-2018 , 07:56 AM

pineapplesean

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I was SB Qc7c $400 effective stack. UTG made it 25 who had a huge stack and was a good reg. UTG +1, +MP2, cut-off and button call. I think about squeezing, but had tried a squeeze player earlier against the same player and got reraised so opted to call. Flop Ac10c2d. Check around. Turn is 7 diamonds. I bet out $60 and folds to button went all-in and covered me. He appeared to be a very loose and aggressive player who bet blind when he first got on the table and recently reraised huge with a 653 board and showed 65 offsuit.

I had about $300 left. What do you do? Easy fold? FYI, I called. Before I give you my read I want to hear what you put him on.

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04-14-2018 , 07:58 AM

iraisetoomuch

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Snap fold pre flop.

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04-14-2018 , 08:10 AM

pineapplesean

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7.5 to 1 odds pre-flop?

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04-14-2018 , 08:15 AM

spirit123

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lol fold that bad hand pre. You’re only going to get yourself in trouble.

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04-14-2018 , 08:27 AM

Petrucci

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Originally Posted by pineapplesean

7.5 to 1 odds pre-flop?

Doesent matter. You have a totally garbage hand with loads of reverse implied odds setting you up for costly follow up mistakes postflop, playing from the absolute worst position on the table.

Preflop this is as bad as it gets really, and i mean its alot more important to fully grasp why this is such a bad preflop decision- than if you should go with a pair+ flushdraw postflop or not.

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04-14-2018 , 08:39 AM

ChrisV

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Very easy fold preflop, not only are you out of position with an average at best hand but you don't close the action and don't even have a full buyin.

As played I'm beating him into the pot, I have outs against everything and he reps basically nothing. It's very unlikely he would check back a good hand OTF against a zillion opponents and a wet board, and also very unlikely the 7 made him a strong hand.

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04-14-2018 , 08:46 AM

the_dude_174

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Originally Posted by pineapplesean

7.5 to 1 odds pre-flop?

Reverse Implied Odds. You make like zero nut hands with this trash. If stacks go in, and you don't have top boat, you are probably behind.

Also flat call out of SB is almost always wrong. Fold pre.

Are you flatting UTG 5x opens in SB with suited paint on the reg? If so this is likely your biggest leak. We are simply not this much better than avg V post flop to be profitable.

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04-14-2018 , 09:34 AM

Garick

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Adding my voice to the snap fold PF chorus. Bad hand in bad position, and bad stack size which maximizes RIOs and also doesn't offer good IOs in those rare occasions when we make the nuts.

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04-14-2018 , 10:50 AM

sai1b0ats

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Need like 70% success taking it down to shove pre here. If he's opening wide and 5x, wait until similar action and an ace in your hand to gii

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04-14-2018 , 03:43 PM

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javi

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This is a 2/5 game right? Just fold pre man, and if you're ever inclined to squeeze just save it for something at least a little more connected than Q7c. 79, QT, J8 maybe. Q7 is just awful. As played there's just too many people in the hand to take it down like this. I'd honestly rather lead the river if it gets checked through again, at least that is a more believable thin value bet line than the fact you flopped a set and missed a check-raise.

Finally vs this guy who went allin screw it, just fold, dont care move on.

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04-14-2018 , 04:59 PM

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javi

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Oh **** I also wanted to say if you're gonna squeeze, you have to have 100BB effective minimum man, because you're very often going to get called and need to be able to cbet and barrel turn with some FE.

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04-14-2018 , 06:57 PM

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Buster65

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Fold pre....twice

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04-14-2018 , 07:18 PM

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WereBeer

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Fold pre, poker is EZ

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